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paulwhut
#23721 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2019 7:26:52 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 7,652
Hello youngster, you and your fake news and polls....you lose every time......!

Speaking of lies, hypocrisy and deceit.....

BUT THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT DOES HAVE A LEGACY:

Here are Obama’s political scandals:
The ATF-led “Operation Fast & Furious”
The 2012 Benghazi attack
The Clinton Foundation’s pay-for-play scheme
Uranium One
The Department of Justice’s tracking of journalists, including Fox News’ James Rosen
The Veteran’s Affairs scandal
The Hillary Clinton private email scandal
The IRS targeting of conservative groups
The Solyndra scandal
NSA spying on Americans and the PRISM program, exposed by whistleblowers
Obama’s nuclear Iran deal
Obama’s intervention in Syria and subsequent failure to act on his “red line” declaration
Anything else?
Obama and other top members from his administration have made similar claims since President Donald Trump assumed office last January, despite the overwhelming amount of facts that disprove their outright dishonesty.

Even Obama’s messaging has not been consistent. He admitted earlier this year that his administration “didn’t have a scandal that embarrassed us.” At that private event, Obama never disputed his administration had scandals, like he did publicly this week.
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23722 Posted : Friday, September 20, 2019 6:32:53 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 9,991
Location: on a hill in the hollow
This is all easily verified public knowledge. You can call news you don't like fake, but that just shows your ignorance of fact.

Intangible wrote:
Actual crimes over the past administrations.




paulwhut wrote:
Hello youngster, you and your fake news and polls....you lose every time......!

Speaking of lies, hypocrisy and deceit.....

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



paulwhut
#23723 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2019 5:44:48 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 7,652
No Sir! you ignore the following, you are invited to stay on your many threads:

Speaking of lies, hypocrisy and deceit.....obama, rice, clinton, holder, reid, schumer, pelosi, comey and the list goes on

you, and others like you....the media, far left liberal socialists with these you are hand in glove.

BUT THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT DOES HAVE A LEGACY:

Here are Obama’s political scandals:
The ATF-led “Operation Fast & Furious”
The 2012 Benghazi attack
The Clinton Foundation’s pay-for-play scheme
Uranium One
The Department of Justice’s tracking of journalists, including Fox News’ James Rosen
The Veteran’s Affairs scandal
The Hillary Clinton private email scandal
The IRS targeting of conservative groups
The Solyndra scandal
NSA spying on Americans and the PRISM program, exposed by whistleblowers
Obama’s nuclear Iran deal
Obama’s intervention in Syria and subsequent failure to act on his “red line” declaration
Anything else?
Obama and other top members from his administration have made similar claims since President Donald Trump assumed office last January, despite the overwhelming amount of facts that disprove their outright dishonesty.

Even Obama’s messaging has not been consistent. He admitted earlier this year that his administration “didn’t have a scandal that embarrassed us.” At that private event, Obama never disputed his administration had scandals, like he did publicly this week.
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23724 Posted : Saturday, September 21, 2019 6:07:48 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 9,991
Location: on a hill in the hollow
I don't ignore factual information, I look at all aspects whether or not I agree. You refuse to even look at facts, you choose willful ignorance. Just as you do with the Holy Bible, you ignore it and study Ellen White. Politically, you choose far-right conspiracy theories handed out by media such as NewsMax, OAN, Fox and Alex Jones.

All of Trump's criminal activities are ongoing and in full public view, but you prefer crying about Obama. Obama has been out of office going on three years, Trump's activities are a current clear and present danger to the United States and democracy world wide!





paulwhut wrote:
No Sir! you ignore the following, you are invited to stay on your many threads:

Speaking of lies, hypocrisy and deceit.....obama, rice, clinton, holder, reid, schumer, pelosi, comey and the list goes on

you, and others like you....the media, far left liberal socialists with these you are hand in glove.

BUT THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT DOES HAVE A LEGACY:

Here are Obama’s political scandals:
The ATF-led “Operation Fast & Furious”
The 2012 Benghazi attack
The Clinton Foundation’s pay-for-play scheme
Uranium One
The Department of Justice’s tracking of journalists, including Fox News’ James Rosen
The Veteran’s Affairs scandal
The Hillary Clinton private email scandal
The IRS targeting of conservative groups
The Solyndra scandal
NSA spying on Americans and the PRISM program, exposed by whistleblowers
Obama’s nuclear Iran deal
Obama’s intervention in Syria and subsequent failure to act on his “red line” declaration
Anything else?
Obama and other top members from his administration have made similar claims since President Donald Trump assumed office last January, despite the overwhelming amount of facts that disprove their outright dishonesty.

Even Obama’s messaging has not been consistent. He admitted earlier this year that his administration “didn’t have a scandal that embarrassed us.” At that private event, Obama never disputed his administration had scandals, like he did publicly this week.

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



paulwhut
#23725 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:17:24 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 7,652
Hello youngster, yes your in-depth treatment of the dems over the past 3 years is without reproach!

keep up the good work and let the right prevail.....please on your own threads....you are just too much to be around.

AND YOUNGSTER HAS BEEN SILENT ABOUT ALL OF THE WONDERFUL ANTICS OF THE DEMS.


Speaking of lies, hypocrisy and deceit.....obama, rice, clinton, holder, reid, schumer, pelosi, comey and the list goes on

you, and others like you....the media, far left liberal socialists with these you are hand in glove.

BUT THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT DOES HAVE A LEGACY:
Here are Obama’s political scandals:
The ATF-led “Operation Fast & Furious”
The 2012 Benghazi attack
The Clinton Foundation’s pay-for-play scheme
Uranium One
The Department of Justice’s tracking of journalists, including Fox News’ James Rosen
The Veteran’s Affairs scandal
The Hillary Clinton private email scandal
The IRS targeting of conservative groups
The Solyndra scandal
NSA spying on Americans and the PRISM program, exposed by whistleblowers
Obama’s nuclear Iran deal
Obama’s intervention in Syria and subsequent failure to act on his “red line” declaration
Anything else?
Obama and other top members from his administration have made similar claims since President Donald Trump assumed office last January, despite the overwhelming amount of facts that disprove their outright dishonesty.

Even Obama’s messaging has not been consistent. He admitted earlier this year that his administration “didn’t have a scandal that embarrassed us.” At that private event, Obama never disputed his administration had scandals, like he did publicly this week.

Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23726 Posted : Sunday, September 22, 2019 7:04:53 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 9,991
Location: on a hill in the hollow
It would be pointless posting a response to you on my threads. You post dubious, if not provocative, claims and then demand no response.

Paulwhut, while I do not expect to agree with you on issues, replying once on the same thread as my post is sufficient. You pull out your old list and paste it everywhere, by posting the same comment on numerous threads it becomes abusive.

What 'antics', what current issue would you like me to give an "in-depth" treatment? I have addressed each of the issues of your list many times over. In the past three years, all of the major issues have been brought about by Trump and Moscow Mitch, the self-proclaimed 'Grim Reaper', whose desk is where Democratic bills die. Unfortunately, the Trump circus has more than enough issues, he occupies the entire news cycle.



paulwhut wrote:
Hello youngster, yes your in-depth treatment of the dems over the past 3 years is without reproach!

keep up the good work and let the right prevail.....please on your own threads....you are just too much to be around.

AND YOUNGSTER HAS BEEN SILENT ABOUT ALL OF THE WONDERFUL ANTICS OF THE DEMS.


Speaking of lies, hypocrisy and deceit.....obama, rice, clinton, holder, reid, schumer, pelosi, comey and the list goes on

you, and others like you....the media, far left liberal socialists with these you are hand in glove.

BUT THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT DOES HAVE A LEGACY:
Here are Obama’s political scandals:
The ATF-led “Operation Fast & Furious”
The 2012 Benghazi attack
The Clinton Foundation’s pay-for-play scheme
Uranium One
The Department of Justice’s tracking of journalists, including Fox News’ James Rosen
The Veteran’s Affairs scandal
The Hillary Clinton private email scandal
The IRS targeting of conservative groups
The Solyndra scandal
NSA spying on Americans and the PRISM program, exposed by whistleblowers
Obama’s nuclear Iran deal
Obama’s intervention in Syria and subsequent failure to act on his “red line” declaration
Anything else?
Obama and other top members from his administration have made similar claims since President Donald Trump assumed office last January, despite the overwhelming amount of facts that disprove their outright dishonesty.

Even Obama’s messaging has not been consistent. He admitted earlier this year that his administration “didn’t have a scandal that embarrassed us.” At that private event, Obama never disputed his administration had scandals, like he did publicly this week.


It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



paulwhut
#23727 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2019 6:37:33 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 7,652
Honesty.....all the lib garbage directed to Trump while totally ignoring the dems and their conduct.

haven't seen any cartoons about clinton......tarmac meeting with May 4, 2019 - What happened when Bill Clinton met then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch on the west side of Phoenix Sky Harbor airport between 7 and 8 PM on June 27, 2016? ... In it, Lynch describes an encounter with Bill Clinton that is both perplexing and preposterous, ...

you are "abusive"......a traitor to this country.....quiet about your dems and their conduct!

fake news fake polls fake media fake conversation. youngster excels in them all.

while totally ignoring obamas' track record. chuck schumer and pelosi obstructing Trumps' presidency......

the harry reid debacle with eric holder.....lied about income tax evasion....."we won didn't we"

The ATF-led “Operation Fast & Furious” eric holder
The 2012 Benghazi attack
The Clinton Foundation’s pay-for-play scheme
Uranium One
The Department of Justice’s tracking of journalists, including Fox News’ James Rosen
The Veteran’s Affairs scandal
The Hillary Clinton private email scandal
The IRS targeting of conservative groups...hmmmmm quiet about that
The Solyndra scandal
NSA spying on Americans and the PRISM program, exposed by whistleblowers
Obama’s nuclear Iran deal
Obama’s intervention in Syria and subsequent failure to act on his “red line” declaration
Anything else?
Obama and other top members from his administration have made similar claims since President Donald Trump assumed office last January, despite the overwhelming amount of facts that disprove their outright dishonesty.

the deep state attack on trump presidency

Even Obama’s messaging has not been consistent. He admitted earlier this year that his administration “didn’t have a scandal that embarrassed us.”
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23728 Posted : Monday, September 23, 2019 7:57:12 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 9,991
Location: on a hill in the hollow
What is "all the lib garbage"?

Trump has totally occupied the news cycle, it is difficult to find news that does not involve Trump.

The "clinton......tarmac meeting" occurred three years ago and has no relevance to the current affairs in the cesspool. It was a private meeting, so only two people know for certain what transpired. Anything involving Clinton is questionable, but I certainly do not buy into the whole "PizzaGate" nonsense.

You say I am "abusive". Is the truth "abusive" to you? I try to be polite and stick to the topic you have opened and I don't plaster your threads with spam.

You also claim I am a "traitor to this country". I don't make deals with Communists, I don't praise ruthless dictators and enemies of this nation, I don't hand out top-secret information in private meetings with Communist leaders. I fully support the Constitution, the three co-equal branches of government and equal rights of all people.

I have often stated that I don't particularly like Pelosi or Schumer, but I can do nothing about it. They both represent people of other states, so I can neither support or get rid of either of them. Currently, I am most disturbed by Pelosi's refusing to open impeachment hearings.

What do you use to determine everything I post is fake? There is a distinct difference between opinions and facts. Just because I don't like something, it does not make it fake!



paulwhut wrote:
Honesty.....all the lib garbage directed to Trump while totally ignoring the dems and their conduct.

haven't seen any cartoons about clinton......tarmac meeting with May 4, 2019 - What happened when Bill Clinton met then-Attorney General Loretta Lynch on the west side of Phoenix Sky Harbor airport between 7 and 8 PM on June 27, 2016? ... In it, Lynch describes an encounter with Bill Clinton that is both perplexing and preposterous, ...

you are "abusive"......a traitor to this country.....quiet about your dems and their conduct!

fake news fake polls fake media fake conversation. youngster excels in them all.

while totally ignoring obamas' track record. chuck schumer and pelosi obstructing Trumps' presidency......

the harry reid debacle with eric holder.....lied about income tax evasion....."we won didn't we"

The ATF-led “Operation Fast & Furious” eric holder
The 2012 Benghazi attack
The Clinton Foundation’s pay-for-play scheme
Uranium One
The Department of Justice’s tracking of journalists, including Fox News’ James Rosen
The Veteran’s Affairs scandal
The Hillary Clinton private email scandal
The IRS targeting of conservative groups...hmmmmm quiet about that
The Solyndra scandal
NSA spying on Americans and the PRISM program, exposed by whistleblowers
Obama’s nuclear Iran deal
Obama’s intervention in Syria and subsequent failure to act on his “red line” declaration
Anything else?
Obama and other top members from his administration have made similar claims since President Donald Trump assumed office last January, despite the overwhelming amount of facts that disprove their outright dishonesty.

the deep state attack on trump presidency

Even Obama’s messaging has not been consistent. He admitted earlier this year that his administration “didn’t have a scandal that embarrassed us.”

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



paulwhut
#23729 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 7:21:32 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 7,652
the youngster never posted aghast at the conduct of the libs.....never a gross cartoon about

obama and clinton and holder and lynch or reid or schumer or pelosi or any of the scum of the dems....the squad....

never a question about their conduct only on Trump did the garbage spew.......you far left liberal socialist progressive CCC

AND YOUNGSTER HAS BEEN SILENT ABOUT ALL OF THE WONDERFUL ANTICS OF THE DEMS.


Speaking of lies, hypocrisy and deceit.....obama, rice, clinton, holder, reid, schumer, pelosi, comey and the list goes on

you, and others like you....the media, far left liberal socialists with these you are hand in glove.

BUT THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT DOES HAVE A LEGACY:
Here are Obama’s political scandals:
The ATF-led “Operation Fast & Furious”
The 2012 Benghazi attack
The Clinton Foundation’s pay-for-play scheme
Uranium One
The Department of Justice’s tracking of journalists, including Fox News’ James Rosen
The Veteran’s Affairs scandal
The Hillary Clinton private email scandal
The IRS targeting of conservative groups
The Solyndra scandal
NSA spying on Americans and the PRISM program, exposed by whistleblowers
Obama’s nuclear Iran deal
Obama’s intervention in Syria and subsequent failure to act on his “red line” declaration
Anything else?
Obama and other top members from his administration have made similar claims since President Donald Trump assumed office last January, despite the overwhelming amount of facts that disprove their outright dishonesty.

Even Obama’s messaging has not been consistent. He admitted earlier this year that his administration “didn’t have a scandal that embarrassed us.” At that private event, Obama never disputed his administration had scandals,
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23730 Posted : Tuesday, September 24, 2019 8:54:24 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 9,991
Location: on a hill in the hollow
Paulwhut, you have said many times that you never read my posts, so how would you know what I have posted? You obviously don't know most of what I post, you just know when I post here.

Overall, I support Democratic policy over Republican, I am a registered Independent. Why would I be "aghast" over most liberal policies or actions? As I stated, I think Pelosi needs to retire and get out of the way of holding impeachment hearings.

The "gross" cartoons are caricatures, political satire, overstating the obvious to drive the point home.

I seriously wish I never had anything to say about Trump, but as I have said, he occupies the 24-hour news cycle.






paulwhut wrote:
the youngster never posted aghast at the conduct of the libs.....never a gross cartoon about

obama and clinton and holder and lynch or reid or schumer or pelosi or any of the scum of the dems....the squad....

never a question about their conduct only on Trump did the garbage spew.......you far left liberal socialist progressive CCC

AND YOUNGSTER HAS BEEN SILENT ABOUT ALL OF THE WONDERFUL ANTICS OF THE DEMS.


Speaking of lies, hypocrisy and deceit.....obama, rice, clinton, holder, reid, schumer, pelosi, comey and the list goes on

you, and others like you....the media, far left liberal socialists with these you are hand in glove.

BUT THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT DOES HAVE A LEGACY:
Here are Obama’s political scandals:
The ATF-led “Operation Fast & Furious”
The 2012 Benghazi attack
The Clinton Foundation’s pay-for-play scheme
Uranium One
The Department of Justice’s tracking of journalists, including Fox News’ James Rosen
The Veteran’s Affairs scandal
The Hillary Clinton private email scandal
The IRS targeting of conservative groups
The Solyndra scandal
NSA spying on Americans and the PRISM program, exposed by whistleblowers
Obama’s nuclear Iran deal
Obama’s intervention in Syria and subsequent failure to act on his “red line” declaration
Anything else?
Obama and other top members from his administration have made similar claims since President Donald Trump assumed office last January, despite the overwhelming amount of facts that disprove their outright dishonesty.

Even Obama’s messaging has not been consistent. He admitted earlier this year that his administration “didn’t have a scandal that embarrassed us.” At that private event, Obama never disputed his administration had scandals,

It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



paulwhut
#23731 Posted : Saturday, October 05, 2019 7:42:07 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 7,652
Please read......





EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ 

The following is a copy of an article written by Spanish writer Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez and published in a Spanish newspaper on Jan. 15, 2008.
It doesn't take much imagination to extrapolate the message to the rest of Europe - and possibly to the rest of the world.
REMEMBER AS YOU READ - THIS WAS IN A SPANISH NEWSPAPER 

Date: Tue. 15 January 2008 14:30

ALL EUROPEAN LIFE DIED IN AUSCHWITZ
By Sebastian Vilar Rodrigez

I walked down the street in Barcelona , and suddenly discovered a terrible truth - Europe died in Auschwitz.

We killed six million Jews and replaced them with 20 million Muslims.  In Auschwitz we burned a culture, thought, creativity, and talent.

We destroyed the Chosen People, truly chosen, because they produced great and wonderful people who changed the world.

The contribution of this people is felt in all areas of life: science, art, international trade, and above all, as the conscience of the world.

These are the people we burned.

And under the pretense of tolerance, and because we wanted to prove to ourselves that we were cured of the disease of racism, we opened our gates to 20 million Muslims, who brought us stupidity and ignorance, religious extremism, and lack of tolerance, crime, and poverty, due to an unwillingness to work and support their families with pride.

They have blown up our trains and turned our beautiful Spanish cities into the third world, drowning in filth and crime.

Shut up in the apartments they receive free from the government, they plan the murder and destruction of their naive hosts.

And thus, in our misery, we have exchanged culture for fanatical hatred, creative skill for destructive skill, intelligence for backwardness and superstition.

We have exchanged the pursuit of peace of the Jews of Europe and their talent for a better future for their children, their determined clinging to life because life is holy, for those who pursue death, for people consumed by the desire for death for themselves and others, for our children and theirs.

What a terrible mistake was made by miserable Europe.
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A lot of Americans have become so insulated from reality that they imagine America can suffer defeat without any inconvenience to them.
These events are actual events from history. They really happened! Do you remember?

1. 1968, Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
   A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
  Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3. In 1979, the U.S. embassy in Iran was taken over by:
  Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. During the 1980s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
   Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1983 the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
   Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70-year-old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
 Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens and a U.S. Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
   Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
  Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
  Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10. In 1998 the U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
 Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked. Two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Center.  Of the remaining two, one crashed into the U.S. Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
  Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
 Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
  Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

14. And now we can add: In 2009, 31 people wounded and 13 American Soldiers murdered on base at Fort Hood by a Major who was known as...    You guessed it -
A Muslim male extremist between the age of 17 and 40.

No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling. Do you?

So, to ensure we Americans/Canadians never offend anyone, particularly fanatic's intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people.

They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling.

Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Nancy Pelosis, Gloria Aldreds, and other dunder-headed attorneys, along with Federal Justices who want to thwart common sense, feel ashamed of themselves - if they have any such sense.

We can not allow the socialist transformation being brought on by the current administration to continue.

Look at what it has done to Europe.

We all must stand together before it's too late and everything America stands for is lost.

The Global Islamic population is approximately 1,200,000,000.
That is ONE BILLION TWO HUNDRED MILLION, or 20% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
1988 - Najib Mahfooz

Peace:
1978 - Mohamed Anwar El-Sadat
1990 - Elias James Corey
1994 - Yaser Arafat:
1999 - Ahmed Zewai

Economics:
(zero)

Physics: 
(zero)

Medicine:
1960 - Peter Brian Medawar
1998 - Ferid Mourad

TOTAL: 7  SEVEN!


The Global Jewish population is approximately 14,000,000.
That is FOURTEEN MILLION, or about 0.02% of the world's population.
They have received the following Nobel Prizes:

Literature:
 1910 - Paul Heyse
 1927 - Henri Bergson
 1958 - Boris Pasternak
 1966 - Shmuel Yosef Agnon
 1966 - Nelly Sachs
 1976 - Saul Bellow
 1978 - Isaac Bashevis Singer
 1981 - Elias Canetti
 1987 - Joseph Brodsky
 1991 - Nadine Gordimer World

Peace:
 1911 - Alfred Fried
 1911 - Tobias Michael Carel Asser
 1968 - Rene Cassin
 1973 - Henry Kissinger
 1978 - Menachem Begin
 1986 - Elie Wiesel
 1994 - Shimon Peres
 1994 - Yitzhak Rabin

Physics:
 1905 - Adolph Von Baeyer
 1906 - Henri Moissan
 1907 - Albert Abraham Michelson
 1908 - Gabriel Lippmann
 1910 - Otto Wallach
 1915 - Richard Willstaetter
 1918 - Fritz Haber
 1921 - Albert Einstein
 1922 - Niels Bohr
 1925 - James Franck
 1925 - Gustav Hertz
 1943 - Gustav Stern
 1943 - George Charles de Hevesy
 1944 - Isidor Issac Rabi
 1952 - Felix Bloch
 1954 - Max Born
 1958 - Igor Tamm
 1959 - Emilio Segre
 1960 - Donald A. Glaser
 1961 - Robert Hofstadter
 1961 - Melvin Calvin
 1962 - Lev Davidovich Landau
 1962 - Max Ferdinand Perutz
 1965 - Richard Phillips Feynman
 1965 - Julian Schwinger
 1969 - Murray Gell-Mann
 1971 - Dennis Gabor
 1972 - William Howard Stein
 1973 - Brian David Josephson
 1975 - Benjamin Mottleson
 1976 - Burton Richter
 1977 - Ilya Prigogine
 1978 - Arno Allan Penzias
 1978 - Peter L Kapitza
 1979 - Stephen Weinberg
 1979 - Sheldon Glashow
 1979 - Herbert Charles Brown
 1980 - Paul Berg
 1980 - Walter Gilbert
 1981 - Roald Hoffmann
 1982 - Aaron Klug
 1985 - Albert A. Hauptman
 1985 - Jerome Karle
 1986 - Dudley R. Herschbach
 1988 - Robert Huber
 1988 - Leon Lederman
 1988 - Melvin Schwartz
 1988 - Jack Steinberger
 1989 - Sidney Altman
 1990 - Jerome Friedman
 1992 - Rudolph Marcus
 1995 - Martin Perl
 2000 - Alan J. Heeger

Economics:
 1970 - Paul Anthony Samuelson
 1971 - Simon Kuznets
 1972 - Kenneth Joseph Arrow
 1975 - Leonid Kantorovich
 1976 - Milton Friedman
 1978 - Herbert A. Simon
 1980 - Lawrence Robert Klein
 1985 - Franco Modigliani
 1987 - Robert M. Solow
 1990 - Harry Markowitz
 1990 - Merton Miller
 1992 - Gary Becker
 1993 - Robert Fogel

Medicine:
 1908 - Elie Metchnikoff
 1908 - Paul Erlich
 1914 - Robert Barany
 1922 - Otto Meyerhof
 1930 - Karl Landsteiner
 1931 - Otto Warburg
 1936 - Otto Loewi
 1944 - Joseph Erlanger
 1944 - Herbert Spencer Gasser
 1945 - Ernst Boris Chain
 1946 - Hermann Joseph Muller
 1950 - Tadeus Reichstein
 1952 - Selman Abraham Waksman
 1953 - Hans Krebs
 1953 - Fritz Albert Lipmann
 1958 - Joshua Lederberg
 1959 - Arthur Kornberg
 1964 - Konrad Bloch
 1965 - Francois Jacob
 1965 - Andre Lwoff
 1967 - George Wald
 1968 - Marshall W. Nirenbergp 1969 - Salvador Luria
 1970 - Julius Axelrod
 1970 - Sir Bernard Katz
 1972 - Gerald Maurice Edelman
 1975 - Howard Martin Temin
 1976 - Baruch S. Blumberg
 1977 - Roselyn Sussman Yalow
 1978 - Daniel Nathans
 1980 - Baruj Benacerraf
 1984 - Cesar Milstein
 1985 - Michael Stuart Brown
 1985 - Joseph L. Goldstein
 1986 - Stanley Cohen & Rita Levi-Montalcini
 1988 - Gertrude Elion
 1989 - Harold Varmus
 1991 - Erwin Neher
 1991 - Bert Sakmann
 1993 - Richard J. Roberts
 1993 - Phillip Sharp
 1994 - Alfred Gilman
 1995 - Edward B. Lewis
 1996- Lu RoseIacovino

 TOTAL: 129!

The Jews are NOT promoting the brain-washing of children in military training camps, teaching them how to blow themselves up and cause maximum deaths of Jews and other non-Muslims. The Jews don't hijack planes, nor kill athletes at the Olympics, or blow themselves up in German restaurants. There is NOT one single Jew who has destroyed a church. There is NOT a single Jew who protests by killing people.

The Jews don't traffic slaves, nor have leaders calling for Jihad and death to all the Infidels.

Perhaps the world's Muslims should consider investing more in standard education and less in blaming the Jews for all their problems.

Muslims must ask what they can do for humankind before they demand that humankind respects them.

Regardless of your feelings about the crisis between Israel and the Palestinians and Arab neighbors, even if you believe there is more culpability on Israel 's part, the following two sentences really say it all:

"If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence. If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel ." Benjamin Netanyahu


General Eisenhower Warned Us.
It is a matter of history that when the Supreme Commander of the Allied Forces, General Dwight Eisenhower, found the victims of the death camps, he ordered all possible photographs to be taken, and for the German people from surrounding villages to be ushered through the camps and even made to bury the dead.
He did this because he said in words to this effect:
"Get it all on record now - get the films - get the witnesses - because somewhere down the road of history some bastard will get up and say that this never happened."


Recently the UK debated whether to remove 'The Holocaust' from its school curriculum because it 'offends' the Muslim population, which claims it never, occurred. It is not removed as yet. However, this is a frightening portent of the fear that s gripping the world and how easily each country is giving into it.

It is now more than 60 years after the Second World War in Europe ended.
This e-mail is being sent as a memorial chain, in memory of the, 6 million Jews, 20 million Russians, 10 million Christians, and 1,900 Catholic priests who were murdered, raped, burned, starved, beaten, experimented on, and humiliated while the German people looked the other way.
Now more than ever, with Iran, among others, claiming the Holocaust to be a myth, it is imperative to make sure the world never forgets.

This e-mail is intended to reach 400 million people. Be a link in the memorial chain and help distribute this around the world.

How many years will it be before the attack on the World Trade Center 'NEVER HAPPENED,' because it offends some Muslim in the United States?
Do not just delete this message. It will take only a minute to pass this along."
 
All I have seen teaches me to trust the Creator for all I have not seen. Ralph W. Emerson
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
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Without oversight, scores of accused priests commit crimes
By CLAUDIA LAUER and MEGHAN HOYER
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In this Jan. 27, 2001, photo, Father Steven Gerard Stencil poses for a portrait at his church, St. Mark the Evangelist, in Oro Valley, Ariz. Stencil was suspended from ministry in 2001 after a trip to Mexico that violated a diocese policy forbidding clerics from being with minors overnight. In a 2019 Facebook post, the former priest said that he was working as a driver for a private Phoenix bus company that specializes in educational tours for school groups and scout troops. (Ben Kirkby/Arizona Daily Star via AP)
Nearly 1,700 priests and other clergy members that the Roman Catholic Church considers credibly accused of child sexual abuse are living under the radar with little to no oversight from religious authorities or law enforcement, decades after the first wave of the church abuse scandal roiled U.S. dioceses, an Associated Press investigation has found.

These priests, deacons, monks and lay people now teach middle-school math. They counsel survivors of sexual assault. They work as nurses and volunteer at nonprofits aimed at helping at-risk kids. They live next to playgrounds and day care centers. They foster and care for children.


And in their time since leaving the church, dozens have committed crimes, including sexual assault and possessing child pornography, the AP’s analysis found.

A recent push by Roman Catholic dioceses across the U.S. to publish the names of those it considers to be credibly accused has opened a window into the daunting problem of how to monitor and track priests who often were never criminally charged and, in many cases, were removed from or left the church to live as private citizens.

Full Coverage: The Reckoning
Each diocese determines its own standard to deem a priest credibly accused, with the allegations ranging from inappropriate conversations and unwanted hugging to forced sodomy and rape.

Dioceses and religious orders so far have shared the names of more than 5,100 clergy members, with more than three-quarters of the names released just in the last year. The AP researched the nearly 2,000 who remain alive to determine where they have lived and worked — the largest-scale review to date of what happened to priests named as possible sexual abusers.


In addition to the almost 1,700 that the AP was able to identify as largely unsupervised, there were 76 people who could not be located. The remaining clergy members were found to be under some kind of supervision, with some in prison or overseen by church programs.

The review found hundreds of priests held positions of trust, many with access to children. More than 160 continued working or volunteering in churches, including dozens in Catholic dioceses overseas and some in other denominations. Roughly 190 obtained professional licenses to work in education, medicine, social work and counseling — including 76 who, as of August, still had valid credentials in those fields.


The research also turned up cases where the priests were once again able to prey upon victims.


After Roger Sinclair was removed by the Diocese of Greensburg in Pennsylvania in 2002 for allegedly abusing a teenage boy decades earlier, he ended up in Oregon. In 2017, he was arrested for repeatedly molesting a young developmentally disabled man and is now imprisoned for a crime that the lead investigator in the Oregon case says should have never been allowed to happen.

Like Sinclair, the majority of people listed as credibly accused were never criminally prosecuted for the abuse alleged when they were part of the church. That lack of criminal history has revealed a sizable gray area that state licensing boards and background check services are not designed to handle as former priests seek new employment, apply to be foster parents and live in communities unaware of their presence and their pasts.


It also has left dioceses struggling with how — or if — former employees should be tracked and monitored. While victims’ advocates have pushed for more oversight, church officials say what’s being requested extends beyond what they legally can do. And civil authorities like police departments or prosecutors say their purview is limited to people convicted of crimes.

That means the heavy lift of tracking former priests has fallen to citizen watchdogs and victims, whose complaints have fueled suspensions, removals and firings. But even then, loopholes in state laws allow many former clergy to keep their new jobs even when the history of allegations becomes public.

“Defrocked or not, we’ve long argued that bishops can’t recruit, hire, ordain, supervise, shield, transfer and protect predator priests, then suddenly oust them and claim to be powerless over their whereabouts and activities,” said David Clohessy, the former executive director of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, who now heads the group’s St. Louis chapter.

“IT WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE ABUSE HISTORY”

When the first big wave of the clergy abuse scandal hit Roman Catholic dioceses in the early 2000s, the U.S. bishops created the Dallas Charter, a baseline for sexual abuse reporting, training and other procedures to prevent child abuse. A handful of canon lawyers and experts at the time said every diocese should be transparent, name priests that had been accused of abuse and, in many cases, get rid of them.

Most dioceses decided against naming priests, however. And with the dioceses that did release lists in the next few years— some by choice, others due to lawsuit settlements or bankruptcy proceedings — abuse survivors complained about underreporting of priests, along with the omission of religious brothers they believed should be on those lists.

Full Coverage: The Reckoning
“The Dallas Charter was supposed to fix everything. It was supposed to make the abuse scandal history. But that didn’t happen,” said the Rev. Thomas Doyle, a canon lawyer who had tried to warn the bishops that abuse was widespread and that they should clean house.

After the charter was established in 2002, some critics say dioceses were more likely to simply defrock priests and return them to private citizenship.

Before 2018′s landmark Pennsylvania grand jury report, which named more than 300 predator priests accused of abusing more than 1,000 children in six dioceses, the official lists of credibly accused priests added up to fewer than 1,500 names nationwide. Now, within the span of a little more than a year, more than 100 dioceses and religious orders have come forward with thousands of names — but often little other information that can be used to alert the public.


Some of the lists merely provide names, without details of the abuse allegations that led to their inclusion, the dates of the priests’ assignments or the parishes where they served. And many don’t disclose the priests’ status with the church, which can vary from being moved into full retirement to being banished from performing public sacraments while continuing to perform administrative work. Only a handful of the lists include the last-known cities the priests lived in.

Over nine months, AP reporters and researchers scoured public databases, court records, property records, social media and other sources to locate the ousted clergy members.

That effort unearthed hundreds of these priests who, largely unwatched by church and civil authorities, chose careers that put them in new positions of trust and authority, including jobs in which they dealt with children and survivors of sexual abuse.

At least two worked as juvenile detention officers, in Washington and Arizona. Several others migrated to government roles like victims’ advocate or public health planner. Others landed jobs at places like Disney World, community centers or family shelters for domestic abuse. And one former priest started a nonprofit that sends people to volunteer in orphanages and other places in developing nations.

The AP determined that a handful adopted or fostered children, sponsored teens and young adults coming to the U.S. for educational opportunities, or worked with organizations that are part of the foster care system, though that number could be much higher since no public database tracks adoptive or foster parents.

Until February, former priest Steven Gerard Stencil worked at a Phoenix company that places severely disabled children in foster homes and trains foster parents to care for them. Colleagues knew he was a former priest, but were unaware of past allegations against him, according to Lauree Copenhaver, the firm’s executive director.

Stencil, now 67, was suspended from ministry in 2001 after a trip to Mexico that violated a diocese policy forbidding clerics from being with minors overnight. Around that time, a 17-year-old boy also complained that Stencil, then pastor of St. Anthony Parish in Casa Grande, Ariz., had grabbed his crotch in 1999 in a swimming pool. The diocese determined it was accidental touching, but turned the allegations over to police. No criminal charges were filed.

Since 2003, Stencil’s name has appeared on the Tucson diocese’s list of clerics credibly accused of sexually abusing children. His request to be voluntarily defrocked was granted in 2011.

Copenhaver said Stencil passed a fingerprint test showing he did not have a criminal history when he was first hired part time by Human Services Consultants LLC 12 years ago.

“We did not have any knowledge of his indiscretions, and had we known his history we would not have hired him,” she said, emphasizing that he did not have direct access to children in his job.

Stencil was fired from the company for unrelated reasons earlier this year. He later said in a post on his Facebook page that he was working as a driver for a private Phoenix bus company that specializes in educational tours for school groups and scout troops.

“I have always been upfront with my employers about my past as a priest,” Stencil wrote in an email to the AP when asked for comment. He said he unsuccessfully asked years ago for his name to be removed from the diocese’s list, adding, “Since then, I have decided to simply live my life as best I can.”

The AP’s analysis also found that more than 160 of the priests remained in the comfortable position of continuing to work or volunteer in a church, with three-quarters of those continuing to serve in some capacity in the Roman Catholic Church. Others moved on as ministers and priests in different denominations, with new roles such as organist or even as priests in Catholic churches not affiliated with the Vatican, sometimes despite known or published credible accusations against them.

In more than 30 cases, priests accused of sexual abuse in the U.S. simply moved overseas, where they worked as Roman Catholic priests in good standing in countries including Peru, Mexico, the Philippines, Ireland and Colombia. The AP found that in all, roughly 110 clergy members moved or were suspected of moving out of the U.S. after allegations were made.

At least five priests were excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church because of their refusal to stop participating in other religious activity.

More than three decades ago, James A. Funke and a fellow teacher at a St. Louis Catholic high school, Jerome Robben, went to prison for sexually abusing male students together. Funke, released in 1995, was eventually bounced from the priesthood. But years later, the two men joined together again, promoting Robben as the leader of a church of his own making.

Since 2004, Missouri records show that Robben has listed his St. Louis home as the base for a religious organization operating under at least three different names. Beginning in 2014, those papers have identified Funke as the order’s secretary and one of its three directors.

Mary Kruger, whose son committed suicide when he was 21 after being abused by the men in high school, said she raised fresh concerns about Robben in 2007 when she heard he was presenting himself as a cleric.

At the time, he was being considered for promotion to bishop in a conservative Christian order based in Ontario, Canada. Kruger said members of the order told her that Robben had dismissed questions about his abuse conviction, claiming he had merely rented an apartment to Funke and that police blamed him for not knowing what went on inside.

Robben eventually was defrocked from the Christian order, and apparently then started his own. Until last year, when its paperwork expired, the group was registered with Missouri officials as the Syrian Orthodox Exarchate. However, a Facebook post from 2017 identified Robben — photographed wearing a crown and gold vestments — as the leader of a Russian Byzantine order raising money to build a monastery in Nevada.

Funke refused to comment when approached by an AP reporter, and Robben did not respond to requests for comment.

“If they could wind up in jail next week, I’d be ecstatic,” Kruger said. “I think as long as they’re alive, they’re dangerous.”

LEFT THE CHURCH, COMMITTED CRIMINAL OFFENSES

As early as 1981, church officials knew of allegations that Roger Sinclair had acted inappropriately with adolescent boys. Two mothers at St. Mary’s Parish in Kittanning, Pennsylvania, wrote a letter to the then-bishop saying that Sinclair had molested their sons, both about 14 at the time.

Sinclair played a game where he would shake hands and then try to shove his hand at their genitals, the mothers said in their letter, parts of which were made public last year as part of the landmark report in Pennsylvania. They said he also tried to put his hands down one of the boy’s pants.

Other accusations emerged about Sinclair showing dirty movies to boys in the rectory, exposing himself and possibly molesting a teen he had taken on a trip to Florida a few years earlier. After a group of mothers called the police for advice, the police chief told them he had heard the rumors but took no action, according to documents reviewed by the Pennsylvania grand jury.

The church sent Sinclair for treatment, returned him to ministry and provided him with a letter that listed him as a priest in good standing so he could be a chaplain in the Archdiocese of Military Services, according to the grand jury. That assignment took him to at least four different states, including Kansas, where in the early ’90s he was a chaplain at the Topeka State Hospital, a now-closed state mental hospital that had a wing for teenagers.

He was fired from that assignment in 1991 after trying multiple times to check out male teenage patients to go see a movie. Administrators said he had managed “to gain access to a locked unit deceitfully.”

Sinclair was removed from ministry in 2002 while the diocese investigated claims from a victim who said the priest sexually abused him in the rectory and on field trips beginning at Sinclair’s first assignment as a priest. He resigned a few years later, before the church concluded proceedings to defrock him.

When he started serving on the board of directors of an Oregon senior center and working as a volunteer there, he was required to pass a background check because the center received federal dollars for the Meals on Wheels program. But no flags were raised because he was never charged in Pennsylvania.

According to accounts from both former center staffers and law enforcement officials, Sinclair’s downfall began when the center’s then-director looked outside and saw him with his hand down the young man’s pants. He immediately barred Sinclair from the center, but left it up to the man’s family to decide whether to press charges. Three months later, after learning why Sinclair had been absent, an employee went to the police out of fear the former priest would target someone else.

Now-Sgt. Steven Binstock, the lead investigator in Oregon, said Sinclair immediately confessed to committing multiple sexual acts with the developmentally disabled man. He also confessed to sexual contact with minors in Pennsylvania 30 years earlier.

“He was very vague, but he did tell us that it was some of the same type of behaviors, the same type of incidents, that had occurred with the victim that happened here,” Binstock told the AP.

The Pennsylvania diocese had never warned Oregon authorities about Sinclair because it stopped tracking him after he left the church. The diocese, which did not tell the public Sinclair had been accused of abuse until it released its list in August 2018, declined to comment on his case.

The AP’s analysis of the credibly accused church employees who remain alive found that more than 310 of the 2,000 have been charged with crimes for actions that took place when they were priests. Beyond that, the AP confirmed that Sinclair and 64 others have been charged with crimes committed after leaving the church, with most of them convicted for those crimes.

Some of the crimes involved drunken driving, theft or drug offenses. But 42 of the men were accused of crimes that were sexual in nature or violent, including a dozen charged with sexually assaulting minors. Thirteen were charged with distributing, making or possessing child pornography, and several others were caught masturbating in public or exposing themselves to people on planes or in shopping malls.

Five failed to register in their new communities as sex offenders as required due to their sex crime convictions.

Priests and other church employees being listed on sex offender registries at all is a rarity — the AP analysis found that only 85 of the 2,000 are. That’s because church officials often successfully lobbied civil authorities to downgrade charges in exchange for guilty pleas ahead of trials. Convictions were sometimes expunged if offenders completed probationary programs or the charges were reduced below the level required by states for registration.

Since sex offender registries in their current searchable form didn’t begin until the 1990s, dozens also were not tracked or monitored, because their original sentences already had been served before the registries were established.

The AP also found that more than 500 of the credibly accused former priests live within 2,000 feet of schools, playgrounds, childcare centers or other facilities that serve children, with many living much closer. In the states that restrict how close registered sex offenders can live to those facilities, limits range from 500 to 2,000 feet.

Decades after Louis Ladenburger was temporarily removed from the priesthood to be treated for “inappropriate professional behavior and relationships,” he was hired as a counselor at a school for troubled boys in Idaho.

Ladenburger was arrested in 2007 and accused of sexual battery; in a deal with prosecutors, he pleaded guilty to aggravated assault. He served about five months in prison.

According to Bonner County, Idaho, sheriff’s reports, students said Ladenburger told them he was a sex addict. During counseling sessions, they said, the former Franciscan priest rubbed their upper thighs and stomachs, held their hands and gave them shoulder and neck massages. If students expressed confusion about their sexual identities, the sheriff’s reports say he fondled them and performed oral sex on them.

Ladenburger was fired from the school. In an interview with sheriff’s officials at the time, he “admitted being a touchy person,” kissing many students and having his “needs met by the physical contact” with the boys.

By then, he’d been gone from the church for more than a decade — in 1996, the Vatican had granted his request to be released from his vows. No officials from his religious order or from the dioceses in six different states where he had served had warned the school or provided details of the allegations against him when he was a priest.

In a lawsuit involving a sexual abuse allegation against another member of the Franciscan order, the complaint cited Ladenburger as an example of the harm done when church officials don’t report accusations of abuse to law enforcement, saying he likely never would have been hired at the school if the Franciscans had reported him when they first became aware.

“For all intents and purposes, they set loose a ticking time bomb that exploded in 2007,” the lawsuit said.

WHY FORMER PRIESTS AREN’T TRACKED

If priests choose to leave their dioceses or religious orders — or if the church decides to permanently defrock them in a process known as laicization — leaders say the church no longer has authority to monitor where they go.

After the Dallas Charter came a rush to laicize, resulting in more than 220 of the priests researched by the AP being laicized between 2004 and 2010. Roughly 40% of all the living credibly accused clergy members had either been laicized or had voluntarily left the church.

The laicized priests also are increasingly younger, giving them even more years to lead unsupervised lives, according to Deacon Bernie Nojadera, the executive director of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Secretariat of Child and Youth Protection.

“That does create an opportunity for them to seek a second career,” Nojadera said. “So this is something a number of dioceses are grappling with and trying to figure out.”

For priests who don’t leave the church, dioceses and religious orders have more options to impose restrictions and monitoring. But how and whether that’s done ranges widely from diocese to diocese, since the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops cannot mandate specific regulations or procedures.

The AP found that the dioceses that released lists more than a decade ago have the most robust of the handful of existing programs.

In Chicago, accused priests who are removed from ministry can opt to join a program started in 2008 in which they continue to receive treatment, benefits and help, and get to “die a priest.” In exchange, they must sign over their right to privacy and agree to obey rules such as not living near a school.

“The monitoring is intrusive . I track their phone usage, I require daily logs of where they go, I track their internet usage and check their financial information and records. They have to tell me where they are going to be, who they will be with. And they have to meet with me twice a month face-to-face,” said Moira Reilly, the case manager in charge of the Chicago Archdiocese’s prayer and penance program.

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Reilly, a licensed social worker, said many Catholics don’t understand why the church runs the program, instead pushing for every priest accused of abuse to be defrocked.

“If we laicize them or if we let them walk away ... no one is watching them,” she said. “I do this job because I truly believe that I am protecting the community. I truly believe that I am protecting children.”

In 2006, the Archdiocese of Detroit hired a former parole officer to monitor priests permanently removed from ministry after credible abuse allegations. Spokesman Ned McGrath said the program requires monthly written reports from the priests that include any contact or planned contact with minors and information on whether they attended treatment among other things.

In other dioceses, priests are sent to retirement homes for clergy or church properties that are easy to monitor, but also are often in close proximity or even share space with schools or universities.

The analysis found that many of the accused clergy members still receive pensions or health insurance from the church, since pensions are governed by federal statute and other benefits are dictated by the bishops in each diocese.

Victims’ advocates and others have suggested dioceses devise a system in which those benefits are contingent upon defrocked priests self-reporting their current addresses and employment.

“All a bishop has to do is tell a predator: ‘Here’s your choice. You’ll go live where I tell you, and you’ll get your pension, health insurance, etc. and be around your brothers but be supervised,’” SNAP’s Clohessy suggested, adding that if the former priests don’t agree, their benefits could be withheld.

But several church officials and lawyers note that robust federal laws prohibit withholding or threatening pensions.

Other experts who study child abuse have suggested the church create a database similar to the national sex offender registry that would allow the public and employers to identify credibly accused priests. But even that measure would not guarantee that licensing boards or employers flag a priest credibly accused but not convicted of abuse.

Doyle, the canon lawyer, said the bishops might not believe they can monitor defrocked priests, but that they could be forthcoming about allegations when potential employers call and could also be required to call child protective services in the states where laicized priests move.

The bishops also could address the issue of oversight by initiating a new framework along the lines of the groundbreaking Dallas Charter, which was approved by the pope, Doyle said. But he added that he didn’t trust the current church leadership to meaningfully address the issue.

“The bishops will never admit this, but when they do cut them loose, they believe they are no longer a liability,” he said, referring to the defrocked priests. “I severely doubt there is an incentive for them to want to fix this problem.”

Nojadera noted that it isn’t that simple, since decisions default to the individual bishops in each diocese.

“We have 197 different ways that the Dallas Charter is being implemented. It’s a road map, a bare minimum,” he said. “We do talk about situations where these men are being laicized and what happens to them. And our canon lawyers are quick to say there is no purview to monitor them.”

LICENSED TO TEACH AND COUNSEL

In many cases, the priests tracked by the AP went on to work in positions of trust in fields allowing close access to children and other vulnerable individuals — all with the approval of state credentialing boards, which often were powerless to deny them or unaware of the allegations until the dioceses’ lists were released.

The review found that 190 of the former clergy members gained licenses to work as educators, counselors, social workers or medical personnel, which can be easy places to land for priests already trained in counseling parishioners or working with youth groups.

One is Thomas Meiring who, after asking to leave the priesthood in 1983, began working as a licensed clinical counselor in Ohio, specializing in therapy for teens and adults with sexual orientation and gender identity issues.

Meiring maintained his state-issued license even after the diocese in Toledo settled a lawsuit in 2008 filed by a man who said he was 15 when Meiring sexually abused him in a church rectory in the late 1960s.

It wasn’t until 2016 that the Toledo diocese’s request to defrock Meiring was granted. State records show that Ohio’s Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage &amp; Family Therapist Board has never taken disciplinary action against the 81-year-old, who is among several treatment providers listed by a municipal court in suburban Toledo.

“We made noise about him years ago and nobody did anything. It’s mind-blowing,” said Claudia Vercellotti, who heads Toledo’s chapter of SNAP.

But Brian Carnahan, the licensing board’s executive director, said the law grants the authority to act only when allegations have resulted in a criminal conviction.

Multiple calls to Meiring at his home and office were not returned.

Few state licensing boards for professions like counselors or teachers have mechanisms in their background check procedures that would catch allegations that were never prosecuted. Some standard checks are conducted in every state, but the statutes regulating what can be taken into consideration when granting or revoking licenses vary. And because the lists of priests with credible allegations against them were so thin until the past year, there was little to cross-check.

Danielle Irving-Johnson, the career services specialist for the American Counseling Association, said criminal background checks are standard when licensing counselors, but that dismissing an application due to an unprosecuted allegation would be unusual.

“There would have to be substantial evidence or some form of documentation to support this accusation,” Irving-Johnson said.

The Alabama Board of Examiners in Psychology was not aware of the allegations against former priest William Finger when he was licensed as a counselor in 2012. The Brooklyn diocese publicly named Finger only in 2017, even though he had been laicized since 2002 because of abuse allegations.

According to a complaint filed in January with the board, a woman who asked not to be named contacted Finger’s employer last year to say he had abused her for a decade, beginning when he was a priest and she was 12 years old. She said he kissed her, fondled her and digitally penetrated her and also alleged he had sexually abused her sister and a female cousin.

The employer fired Finger, now 83, and reported the allegations to the state’s licensing board.

In many states, allegations dating from before someone was licensed or that never made it to court would have been dismissed. But Alabama’s board issued an emergency suspension because it is allowed to consider issues of “moral character” from any point in a licensed individual’s life.

The decision whether to permanently suspend Finger’s license is pending. He did not return multiple messages from the AP but denied the allegations in a statement to the licensing board. He also remains licensed as a counselor and hypnotherapist in Florida.

The AP also found that 91 of the clergy members had been licensed to work in schools as teachers, principals, aides and school counselors, only 19 of whom had their licenses suspended or revoked. Twenty-eight still are actively licensed or hold lifetime certifications.

That’s almost surely an undercount, since some private, religious or online schools don’t require teachers to be licensed and states like New Jersey and Massachusetts don’t have public databases of teacher licenses.

School administrators in Cinnaminson, New Jersey, knew for years that sixth-grade teacher Joseph Michael DeShan had been forced from the priesthood for impregnating a teen parishioner. But nearly two decades later, he remained in a classroom.

DeShan, now 60, left the Bridgeport, Connecticut, diocese in 1989 after admitting having sex with the girl beginning when she was 14. Two years later, she got pregnant and gave birth. The diocese did not report DeShan to the police, and he was never prosecuted.

By 2002, he was working as a teacher in Cinnaminson when church disclosures about his past raised alarms. After a brief investigation, administrators allowed DeShan to return to the classroom, where he remained until last year, when a new generation of parents renewed cries for his removal.

The school board tried to fire him, citing both his conduct as a priest and recent remarks to a student about her “pretty green eyes.” In April, a state arbitrator ruled against the district, saying it had been “long aware” of DeShan’s conduct as a priest.

The state confirmed DeShan, who did not return calls for comment, still holds a valid teaching license, but that the licensing board is seeking to revoke it. Parents say he is not in a classroom this fall, but his profile remains posted on the school website and the idea he could be allowed back is troubling, said Cornell Jones, whose daughter was in DeShan’s class last year.

“When I found out about this guy being her teacher I was just, ‘No way — there’s no way possible,’” Jones said. “I get a traffic violation and they make me pay. You violate a child and they just put you in a...
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
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