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mistero
#1 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 5:53:20 PM
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The following comment was left on my blog by Mr. Lundgren:

" A Spell?
Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:52 PM by stevelundgren
Hmm...

What's up with you?

Your attempts to make Heaven on earth will end up where?



Nothing good can come of this."


That was in response to my posting the lyrics to the Etta James song, "At Last"
for Valentine's Day. It's a classic love song. Has nothing to do with witchcraft,
satanism, the occult, etc.
Again, Mr. Lundgren is inferring that I'm wrapped up in some kind of black magic.
It's harassment, again, pure and simple. I stopped posting here, again, mainly be-
cause of him and his witch hunts and extremism. Still, he follows me and just keeps
up the creepiness. He came after me on my blog because I had to block his emails
awhile back cause he kept sending me creepy stuff. Enough is enough and I've put
up with way more than enough. Others here keep ripping a certain other former
poster apart for causing much less grief than he has caused me.

If he were pulling this stuff on me in real life, his butt would be in jail.


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nestgotjesus
#2 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 6:27:01 PM
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I was missing your posts but thought perhaps you didn't have power.
I'm just glad to know you are o.k.
stevelundgren
#3 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 6:45:55 PM
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mistero wrote:
stevelundgren wrote:


Ki,

I really object to what mistero is saying to you about "socializing".
And it's one thing to say it once, but she has brought it up repeatedly. (ad nauseum)

Between the lines, her message seems to be that you are NOT okay.
She claims to be well-meaning. But, ultimately it seems to be a ploy to undermine your faith.
If you would just hang out at bars with "normal" folks, you wouldn't be such a "Bible thumper".

And what is a "Bible thumper" anyway?
It's a derogatory term for those of us who take God's word as authoritative.
A slap in the face. A put-down. An insult. A personal attack?

Someone was saying something earlier about winning God's approval.
Here's what the Bible says about that.

2 Timothy 2:15 KJV
Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.






Aaaaahh. Now would you look what slithered out to come after me, sorta, kinda. The way he operates. Not addressing
me directly but throwing spitballs through someone else.

I'm using Bible thumpers cause it fits. Always talking the talk, rarely walking the walk. Always telling others
how they're supposed to live but rarely living that way themselves. If the shoe didn't fit, you wouldn't be taking it
so badly, now would you Mr. Lundgren?

A personal attack, huh? Well you just push the little squealer button, again, then. Do it with my blessing.

As far as what I say to Mr. K., and him to me, that is between the two of us. One of the things about Mr. K. is that
he handles his own business. Like men do. He's perfectly capable of telling me how he feels. And he does.

When talking about socializing I am not talking about bars and I've made that perfectly clear many times here.
Church groups, YMCA, Salvation Army, they all offer social clubs, etc. At free or reduced cost.
Mr. K. is the one who said he would probably go out to a bar and nurse a beer. Never did I say that.

Once again, the Skipster, KNOWING that he's so all powered right, is wrong.

Now man up, Mr. Lundgren. Address me directly or not at all.



I thought I would wait to see if someone else wanted to address this abusive post from mistero. No takers.

Where to begin... ?

Aren't you the one blogging about forgiveness? Yet somehow you are still bitter about things that have happened in the past that I have already asked forgiveness for. I guess you can only keep a lid on that for so long before it blows up.

Anyway, I was addressing Ki. I was not addressing you. I disagreed with what you were saying to Ki, but I did not expect you to change your mind. I wanted Ki to see what I saw. That's all.

So, from that point of view, your post was most inappropriate. Certainly nothing short of a personal attack. Not that I expect you to care.

Besides you, the only persons I have heard use the term "Bible thumpers" are atheists and agnostics.
I'm not sure why you are joining forces with Christian haters.

And the features of this forum are for everyone to use, and no one should be criticized or belittled for using them. I don't use ignore, but I don't expect others not to use it, or demean them for it. The same goes for abuse reporting. The feature is there for whoever feels they need to use it.




Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
stevelundgren
#4 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 6:54:01 PM
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mistero wrote:
The following comment was left on my blog by Mr. Lundgren:

" A Spell?
Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:52 PM by stevelundgren
Hmm...

What's up with you?

Your attempts to make Heaven on earth will end up where?



Nothing good can come of this."


That was in response to my posting the lyrics to the Etta James song, "At Last"
for Valentine's Day. It's a classic love song. Has nothing to do with witchcraft,
satanism, the occult, etc.
Again, Mr. Lundgren is inferring that I'm wrapped up in some kind of black magic.
It's harassment, again, pure and simple. I stopped posting here, again, mainly be-
cause of him and his witch hunts and extremism. Still, he follows me and just keeps
up the creepiness. He came after me on my blog because I had to block his emails
awhile back cause he kept sending me creepy stuff. Enough is enough and I've put
up with way more than enough. Others here keep ripping a certain other former
poster apart for causing much less grief than he has caused me.

If he were pulling this stuff on me in real life, his butt would be in jail.





Aaaaahh. Now would you look what slithered out to come after me. Sorta, kinda the way she operates. Not addressing
me directly.

Hmm... So the forum isn't real life, huh?

Always talking the talk, rarely walking the walk. Always telling others how they're supposed to live. She is the Queen Bee after all.

If the shoe didn't fit, you wouldn't be taking it so badly, now would you mistero?

A personal attack, huh? Well you just push the little squealer button then. Do it with my blessing.

Address me directly or not at all.



Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
mistero
#5 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 6:56:38 PM
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I just squealed two more times. That's three times in a couple hours. Now leave me alone.
stevelundgren
#6 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 7:11:52 PM
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mistero wrote:

... He came after me on my blog because I had to block his emails
awhile back cause he kept sending me creepy stuff...

... If he were pulling this stuff on me in real life, his butt would be in jail.



This pack of lies amounts to defamation of character.

Are you familiar with that real-life legal term?

You claim that I came after you on your blog because you had to block my emails
awhile back, because I kept sending you creepy stuff? Not entirely true.

That happened months ago, if not an entire year or more.
So it had nothing to do with that, given the time frame.

Yes, you blocked my emails. But I only sent you one or two.
And just because you don't agree with my point of view does not give you the right to call me creepy.
You make it sound like I am some sort of predator. Not true.

Tell the truth for a change.



Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
stevelundgren
#7 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 7:18:17 PM
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mistero wrote:
I just squealed two more times. That's three times in a couple hours. Now leave me alone.



Well you just go ahead and push the little squealer button again then. Do it with my blessing.

Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
kathyw
#8 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 7:55:32 PM
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Leave her alone, Steve. You started all this with your weird comment on her blog. You must be one sicko person to leave a comment like that regarding the song she posted. It was creepy and it appears as if you were just trying to provoke her.
stevelundgren
#9 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 8:23:58 PM
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kathyw wrote:
Leave her alone, Steve. You started all this with your weird comment on her blog. You must be one sicko person to leave a comment like that regarding the song she posted. It was creepy and it appears as if you were just trying to provoke her.



I started it?

That's pretty short-sighted.

Mistero and I have not been getting along since long before you arrived.

You don't know the half of it.



Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
kathyw
#10 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 8:41:08 PM
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You're proving my point. If you don't get along with her, why are you provoking her?
Didn't your mother ever say to you, "If you can't play nicely, then don't play at all"?
stevelundgren
#11 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 8:49:58 PM
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kathyw wrote:
You're proving my point. If you don't get along with her, why are you provoking her?
Didn't your mother ever say to you, "If you can't play nicely, then don't play at all"?



No.

My Mom didn't use mixed metaphors.

If you think mistero hasn't been doing her share of the provoking, then you aren't paying attention.



Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
mistero
#12 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 9:18:03 PM
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I do not bother you. I totally ignore you. You want me to reply to your nasty
posts so that you can cry about it. The more I ignore you the more you come
after me. Leave me alone. I have no problem with leaving you alone.
There was no reason for you to post that comment on my blog other than to
get me to say something to you. I've had enough. I haven't posted here
in days and still you can't leave me alone.
stevelundgren
#13 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 9:29:28 PM
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mistero wrote:
I do not bother you. I totally ignore you. You want me to reply to your nasty
posts so that you can cry about it. The more I ignore you the more you come
after me. Leave me alone. I have no problem with leaving you alone.
There was no reason for you to post that comment on my blog other than to
get me to say something to you. I've had enough. I haven't posted here
in days and still you can't leave me alone.



You don't bother me? You totally ignore me?

Wrong on both counts.

Is that what you were up to when you left a few days ago?

I've asked you to ignore me at times too.

It would be fine with me if you left me alone. I prefer it.

Stop harrassing me!



Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
mistero
#14 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 9:33:34 PM
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What the heck are you talking about???? What I "was up to"???

What the heck is wrong with you?????
Harrassing YOU???? I haven't said a word to you since right after you squealed
on Mr. J.

That's it I'm done for good here. Take care everyone.
stevelundgren
#15 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 9:51:08 PM
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mistero wrote:
What the heck are you talking about???? What I "was up to"???

What the heck is wrong with you?????
Harrassing YOU???? I haven't said a word to you since right after you squealed
on Mr. J.

That's it I'm done for good here. Take care everyone.



What you were up to is posted above.

You haven't said a word to me because you didn't want to answer for the abusive post you left.

Post #3 of this topic was on page 3 (post #45) of the Missionaries In Haiti topic.

Who are you to call anyone a squealer?

Your halo is slipping.



Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
candie
#16 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 11:28:26 PM
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Steve are You so afraid of evil coming to Your neighborhood that
you look for it everywhere?
Did You know that the Bible calls a fear of evil,an unsound mind?
Did You know that the Bible says that a fear of evil shows a lack of faith?

Do you honestly think that everything everyone says has a religious conotation?
I understand that You may not be in favor of love songs, but You might consider that
the majority of the world does.Finding evil in everything is not healthy.
It is not even Biblical.
Your belief that everything is either evil or Godly is among the minority Christians.
Have you ever considered that maybe the majority of Theologians,Priests,Preachers and
Teachers just may be right and You wrong?
Probably not.
kihisho
#17 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 11:40:22 PM
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candie wrote:


Your belief that everything is either evil or Godly is among the minority Christians.
Have you ever considered that maybe the majority of Theologians,Priests,Preachers and
Teachers just may be right and You wrong?
Probably not.


The above statement is your personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect fact or the " majority " despite your assertation. Perhaps the statement comes primarily from your own personal experience among those you have met, but it would differ from others personal experience including my own.

God didn't leave an " in between ", except for " lukewarm " which was declared as worse than evil in a way. I have heard, read, and seen that Principle taught through every preacher, teacher, and Christian I have met...personally anyway.

As for this apparent contention over Misteros personal Blog post....did she state in the post that the Verses were actually a song from some Artist ? If she didn't then that could certainly explain the possible confusion. If however she DID post that necessary information...then I don't know why Steve objected.

Other than one of those two possibilities I have no clear idea what is going on I suppose. Then again, doesn't Mistero ( or anyone ) have the ability to block specific commentary from being posted to thier own Blog ? If so...all she had to do was ignore and delete the commentary she didn't agree with...right ? But if she doesn't have that ability, then naturally she has to understand that others may express disagreement with her over something she posts. In fact she should expect it, everyone should expect it when any of us post something.



Cylon force inbound, all Vipers engage ! Weapons free...Fire, Fire, Fire ! - Battlestar Galactica


Today IS a good day to die ! - Commander Worf, Star Trek the Next Generation


I'm not anxious to die, i'm just anxious to make a difference - Character in Pearl Harbor, movie.


kihisho
#18 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 11:43:01 PM
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candie wrote:

Steve are You so afraid of evil coming to Your neighborhood that
you look for it everywhere?
Did You know that the Bible calls a fear of evil,an unsound mind?
Did You know that the Bible says that a fear of evil shows a lack of faith?


There is a definitive difference between " fear " of evil and vigilance and combat against evil.

One does not necessarily predicate the other.



Cylon force inbound, all Vipers engage ! Weapons free...Fire, Fire, Fire ! - Battlestar Galactica


Today IS a good day to die ! - Commander Worf, Star Trek the Next Generation


I'm not anxious to die, i'm just anxious to make a difference - Character in Pearl Harbor, movie.


candie
#19 Posted : Monday, February 15, 2010 11:57:38 PM
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kihisho wrote:
candie wrote:

Steve are You so afraid of evil coming to Your neighborhood that
you look for it everywhere?
Did You know that the Bible calls a fear of evil,an unsound mind?
Did You know that the Bible says that a fear of evil shows a lack of faith?


There is a definitive difference between " fear " of evil and vigilance and combat against evil.

One does not necessarily predicate the other.





I never said it did.
They way Steve condemns everything He don't like is fear.
He has even admitted that he's believes evil will attack and come
through an open gate if he gets too close to it.
The Bible does not agree with that belief.
Condemning and judging everyone on everything is not being vigilant. it's being afraid.
The Bible says it's a sign of a lack of faith and an unsound mind.
It also says that fear of evil will breed evil.I can understand that now.
It's evil for anyone to believe that humans are basically evil and it's evil to look for evil in almost everything.
If a Bible believing Christian wants to find evil, all they have to do is read the Bible.
It is not healthy to be that obsessed with finding evil. It is not healthy to look for evil everywhere we go.It is not healthy to believe that every thing we disagree with is evil.

Obsession is fear.
Anyone obssesed with anything is fearful, regardless of what you call it.
Obsession is a sign of an unsound mind.
candie
#20 Posted : Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:06:54 AM
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kihisho wrote:
candie wrote:


Your belief that everything is either evil or Godly is among the minority Christians.
Have you ever considered that maybe the majority of Theologians,Priests,Preachers and
Teachers just may be right and You wrong?
Probably not.


The above statement is your personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect fact or the " majority " despite your assertation. Perhaps the statement comes primarily from your own personal experience among those you have met, but it would differ from others personal experience including my own.

God didn't leave an " in between ", except for " lukewarm " which was declared as worse than evil in a way. I have heard, read, and seen that Principle taught through every preacher, teacher, and Christian I have met...personally anyway.

As for this apparent contention over Misteros personal Blog post....did she state in the post that the Verses were actually a song from some Artist ? If she didn't then that could certainly explain the possible confusion. If however she DID post that necessary information...then I don't know why Steve objected.

Other than one of those two possibilities I have no clear idea what is going on I suppose. Then again, doesn't Mistero ( or anyone ) have the ability to block specific commentary from being posted to thier own Blog ? If so...all she had to do was ignore and delete the commentary she didn't agree with...right ? But if she doesn't have that ability, then naturally she has to understand that others may express disagreement with her over something she posts. In fact she should expect it, everyone should expect it when any of us post something.




Quote:

The above statement is your personal opinion and does not necessarily reflect fact or the " majority " despite your assertation. Perhaps the statement comes primarily from your own personal experience among those you have met, but it would differ from others personal experience including my own.



Of Course it does.

I never said God left an in between, except for luke warm, which is actually an in between, since You brought it up.God also didn't leave room for harrassment of those we don't agree with.
God didn't leave an in between for showing brotherly love.
There are a lot of songs that have nothing to do with religion.
You like using the more modern definitions of words,so the more modern use of heaven, when not in gospel music is that of paradise. Steve knew that but saw a chance to harass mistero over it.It had nothing to do with His belief that some human is trying to move heave3n down to earth. He isn't taht dumb, and noone is dumb enough to believe He didn't understand the song.
It isn't healthy to follow someone around and harass them simply because we have a vedetta against them.
That obsession.It's evil.
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