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Sarge ~
You laid out a good framework for discussion of a topic that WILL have people 180 degrees diametrically opposed to ideas, ideals, reality and even truth. I hope you don't mind that I pulled your comments off a different thread to open this one... I can always do some editing if need be.
I believe that science and the Bible can often be reconciled to explain today's reality. If the NWO is to take command of the world, certain things MUST happen just as the Bible foretells of things that must be. Like the pains of birth all things must happen to establish a NWO as well as usher in the final days of Bible prophesy. The only way to proceed would require all participants to acknowledge there WILL be some opposing views.
As adults, WE have to moderate ourselves by NOT getting personal and NOT attempting to read more into the stated word without asking for clarification. Perhaps I am dead wrong, but I actually believe we CAN have a civil discussion of opposing ideas without making each other angry. So, in this thread, there will be those times with which we must agree to disagree.sarge wrote:Thanks Wyatt,
I glad I'm not the only one here that can see it. There's lots more where that came from. Starting a new topic with discussions relating to the NWO would be tricky I think. First we would need everybody on board and everyone should have an open mind as to the possibilities that exist in reference to world events that are and could take place in the event we wake one day to find our currency has been replaced. Jay, Steve, Ki, Greg, Paul, Terry, yourself and everybody's ideas on this one would be helpful. I believe the groundwork for such a NWO has been initiated many years ago. I heard Tom Brokaw once say that with a nation the size and as complex as the United States he saw no way of an enemy overthrowing our country. He said too many people have guns and are armed, that "the people" would easily organize and stop them at the borders. When I heard him say that my first thought was we will self destruct all by ourselves initially and without any eminate threat of enemy attack at our borders. All without a shot being fired we are breaking apart within? I know thats assuming alot but I believe there's some credibility to my statement. Where to start and how to break it down for simplicity may be a good start. Any ideas as to how to proceed in a somewhat organized manner folks? Any interest at all people? I know I'm not the best person here to take the lead regarding a thread like this. Any takers? No interest? Not such a good idea? Speak to me peoples...Lol!
Sarge I know there are some ideas set in stone, in people's minds at least, so lets just accept the other view for the purpose of continuance and see if religion and politics are truly like oil and water!Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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2 Timothy 3:1-5 NIV
But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God— having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them. Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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Sarge ~ You laid out a good framework for discussion of a topic that WILL have people 180 degrees diametrically opposed to ideas, ideals, reality and even truth. I hope you don't mind that I pulled your comments off a different thread to open this one... I can always do some editing if need be. I believe that science and the Bible can often be reconciled to explain today's reality. If the NWO is to take command of the world, certain things MUST happen just as the Bible foretells of things that must be. Like the pains of birth all things must happen to establish a NWO as well as usher in the final days of Bible prophesy. The only way to proceed would require all participants to acknowledge there WILL be some opposing views. As adults, WE have to moderate ourselves by NOT getting personal and NOT attempting to read more into the stated word without asking for clarification. Perhaps I am dead wrong, but I actually believe we CAN have a civil discussion of opposing ideas without making each other angry. So, in this thread, there will be those times with which we must agree to disagree. I know there are some ideas set in stone, in people's minds at least, so lets just accept the other view for the purpose of continuance and see if religion and politics are truly like oil and water!
Thanks again Greg,
I find this topic fascinating myself and agree we will no doubt have some opposing views. I think we need to keep focus on the title of the topic "The New World Order". What it's definition involves, world history and biblical prophecy. I also agree that there is much science that does in fact reconcile and adhere to biblical prophecy. That in itself should have the makings for some exciting exchanges of ideas. I believe we first need to establish a starting point in history whether it be bible prophecy or world history not covered by biblical documentation should not deter our intentions. World history is well documented but if we are going to work from a base premise that involves both current and historic world history and Biblical prophecy, can we all agree together first that the Holy Bible is fact and not interject it as theory. I say that because I don't want to prematurely assume everyone that participates is a believer. Others may join in our discussion who may not believe in Christ and prophecy and we either quickly dismiss their views or be hindered by conflict of beliefs thus wasting our time because were not all on the same page. We need to work together with the same base premise before we proceed. Are we agreed?
I will do some research and give some thought as to what might be a good starting point and give my thoughts later, in the next couple of days perhaps. I think all ideas should be heard and given serious consideration. I know Jay, Steve and Ki's participation would make this thread all the more exciting and interesting. They have so much to bring to the table for sure! I'll wait to hear from them too.
It's my hope we do proceed with order. I think we all should put some thought into this so this topic doesn't putter out prematurely.
Thanks for launching this one Greg! I think this will definitely be an exciting and thought provoking topic. My personal hope is to work as a TEAM on this one. It's almost like a teasure hunt of sorts with a single goal in mind if we proceed together with a common denominator.
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New World Order (conspiracy theory)
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This article is about the use of the term "New World Order" in conspiracy theory. For other uses, see New World Order.
The reverse side of the Great Seal of the United States (1776). The Latin phrase "novus ordo seclorum", appearing on the reverse side of the Great Seal since 1782 and on the back of the U.S one-dollar bill since 1935, means "New Order of the Ages" and only alludes to the beginning of an era where the United States of America is an independent nation-state, but is often improperly translated by conspiracy theorists as "New World Order".[1] Academic historians argue that conspiracy theorists misinterpret the “eye and pyramid” as the Masonic symbol of the Illuminati,[2][3] an 18th-century secret society conspiracists speculate continues to exist and is plotting on behalf of a New World Order.[4][5]
In conspiracy theory, the term "New World Order" or "NWO" refers to the emergence of a bureaucratic collectivist one-world government.[6]
The common theme in conspiracy theories about a New World Order is that a powerful and secretive elite with a globalist agenda is conspiring to eventually rule the world through an autonomous world government, which would replace sovereign nation-states and put an end to international power struggles. Significant occurrences in politics and finance are speculated to be orchestrated by an extremely influential cabal operating through many front organizations. Numerous historical and current events are seen as steps in an on-going plot to achieve world domination through secret political gatherings and decision-making processes.[7]
Prior to the early 1990s, New World Order conspiracism was limited to two American countercultures, primarily the militantly anti-government right, and secondarily fundamentalist Christians concerned with end-time emergence of the Antichrist.[8] Skeptics, such as Michael Barkun and Chip Berlet, have expressed concern that right-wing conspiracy theories about a New World Order have now not only been embraced by many left-wing conspiracy theorists but have seeped into popular culture, thereby inaugurating an unrivaled period of people actively preparing for apocalyptic millenarian scenarios in the United States of the late 20th and early 21st centuries. Political scientists warn that this mass hysteria may not only fuel lone-wolf terrorism but have devastating effects on American political life, such as the far right wooing the far left into joining an insurrectionary national-anarchist movement capable of subverting the established political powers.[7][9][10][11][12][13]
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Anyone that can listen to the associated video's on this link, take the time to download and listen. Some very applicable and fascinating information is on this link. http://www.jeremiahproject.com/newworldorder/The New World Order
As the 20th-century idols of atheism, humanism and communism are falling worldwide a spiritual vacuum is left that must be filled. In the resulting contest for the souls and minds of Americans in this new world order, the Church faces formidable opponents in godless liberal collectivists, neo-conservative fascists, globalists, New Age religion, Islam and Satanism.
No longer are we only threatened from without by a group of balding hard-line Communists - we are now threatened from within - by a group of intelligent, well-dressed globalists who are convincing America and the nations of the world that the only way to lasting world peace is the establishment of a ... "New World Order."
New World Order is a term used to describe the uniting of the world's superpowers to secure and maintain global peace, safety, and security. Synonymous with the term New World Order are the terms one world government, global governance, and globalization. All these terms are used interchangeably and at different times to communicate to different audiences. Make no mistake - they all basically mean the same thing.
"A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not traitor, he speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their garments, and he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared." - Cicero, 42 B.C.
Conspiracy Theory or Fact?
While many people dismiss the New World Order as a conspiracy theory, it is neither a conspiracy nor a theory. It may be true there are many conspirators working within the New World Order, in it's broader application, the New World Order is really more of an agenda by a group of international elites that control and manipulate governments, industry and media organizations worldwide. Any intelligent person examining history and events occurring today cannot describe it as a theory either, rather the New World Order is clearly documented in historical documents in both the words and actions of world leaders.
World leaders are excited at the prospects for peace and there has been much talk about entering a "new era" and about the establishment of a "New World Order."
The New World Order agenda is detailed in documents from the Council of Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, Bilderberg Group, Club of Rome, United Nations, World Bank, and the International Monetary Fund.
Mikhail Gorbachev was the first world leader to come out publicly with talk of a "new world order," and he did so nearly two years before George Bush caught the vision. In his historic address to the United Nations on December 7, 1988, the Soviet Prime Minister made this dogmatic and even prophetic statement: "Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order."
George Bush proved to be a good and faithful servant of the "brotherhood" in making the "New World Order" agenda a priority focus of his administration. Just before leaving for Helsinki, Finland, early in September 1990 to discuss the Persian Gulf crisis at his summit meeting with Soviet President Gorbachev, President George Bush expressed the hope that "the foundation for the new world order would be laid in Helsinki" and that it would be established under the United Nations.
At the news conference with Gorbachev following their historic meeting, President Bush declared optimistically: "If the nations of the world, acting together, continue as they have been we will set in place the cornerstone of an international order more peaceful than any that we have known."
Then in 1993, the New World Order was established as a legitimate national agenda - by a socialist Democrat, Bill Clinton. Both George Bush and Bill Clinton were beholding to the same secret orders, codes and financiers, and as a result, probably engineered the change of Presidents by manipulating the American people to pull the plug on Bush. George Bush may have actually been running a campaign to LOSE the presidency.
Globalists welcomed this as democracy's finest hour - through manipulation, the democratic system installed a socialist, new age, one-world leader with the charismatic appeal of John F. Kennedy to do their bidding!
During Clinton's reign, New World Order Socialists publicly came out of the closet in the U.S. House of Representatives. The powerful and popular lobby called the Progressive Caucus now began openly espousing the principles of socialism and publicly signed onto the agenda of the Democratic Socialists of America.
Masterfully using the Hegelian Dialectic, Bill Clinton's favorite answer to all questions was government. Got a problem? Bill Clinton's new government program can fix it. Lost your job? Sign up for an employee retraining program. Feeling a little under the weather? A visit to your regional health alliance will shape you up. Having difficulty raising your children? Join our village because "It takes more than a family to raise children."
Bill and Hillary were introducing Americans to the 21st Century "Brave New World" described by Aldous Huxley in 1932 where humanity lives in a carefree, healthy, and technologically advanced society.
Warfare and poverty are to be eliminated in their "village" and everyone is permanently happy due to government-provided conditioning and drugs. Clinton also advanced the more hedonistic society, deriving pleasure from promiscuous sex and drug use, what Huxley called soma - a powerful psychotropic rationed by the government that is taken to escape pain and bad memories through hallucinatory fantasies, referred to as "Holidays". Of course, these things are achieved by eliminating many things that we consider to be central to our identity - family, culture, art, literature, science, religion, and philosophy.
"We are redefining in practical terms the immutable ideals that have guided us from the beginning." - President Bill Clinton
Peace, Safety, and Security
The pacified population accepts it readily enough believing that a world government establishing world peace and preventing a nuclear holocaust could not be considered evil.
While people are saying, “Peace and safety,” destruction will come on them suddenly, as labor pains on a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
- 1 Thessalonians 5:3
The Price of Security
In a statement to the United Nations Business Council in September 1994, David Rockefeller said, "We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the new world order."
By the time George W. Bush came into power, the next incremental step necessary to accomplish the global transformation Rockefeller referred to was to convice the American people that it was necessary they abandon the freedoms they were accustomed to in exchange for security.
To accomplish this goal, Bush needed the right major crisis, or what the Project for the New American Century called, "a new Pearl Harbor."
Thanks to a group of CIA funded and trained operatives, Mr. Bush got his New Pearl Harbor ushering in a period of de facto martial law where the American Constitution was shredded and Americans were told resistance was futile. Before leaving office, the Bush Administration introduced another major crisis when the central banks of the world looted the national treasuries of their assets and left a legacy of slavery to debt for generations not yet born.
Bigger Government
Economically, America is on the brink of financial disaster as she has jettisoned her strength through independence and has bound herself to a faltering global economy. Our government leaders no longer adhere to a concept of obeying the spirit of the law, let alone the letter of the law. Most of them have no concept of right and wrong. No concept of what is and is not appropriate. And perhaps no conscience.
These politicians have no respect for the people who elected them. No respect for the American people. No respect for their office. No respect for the Constitution of the United States. No respect for what it means to be entrusted by the people of this nation to serve at the highest capacity. Their only goal is to consolidate more money and power into the hands of the few in order to control and manipulate the many.
Originally created to defend and protect, our government was now being asked to provide. As the problems grow, so must the government. Traditionally, Democrats have stood for big government, far-reaching federally controlled and federally funded programs and taxation at levels to match. One has to only scan through a few of Clinton's policies in economic, spending, and tax strategy to see that sovereignty and freedom were the items actually targeted for reduction.
The governments ability to provide was demonstrated a few years later following the disaster left by hurricane Katrina. What emerged appeared to be more an operational test of "control" than of providing assistance.
We have witnessed over the past 100 years an ever increasing collectivist inspired transfer of wealth and a federal government takeover of the management of American business, health care, education and the American family. Clinton's actions demonstrated that he envisioned much more than mere renewal or reform; he wanted to create an entirely new society controlled by a massive collectivist government. George W. Bush flexed the collectivist muscle to bring the American population under the controlling wing of a government police state as he allowed the International banksters to siphon off Trillions of dollars of American assets.
America was ready for Change...
The New World Order Messiah of Change
At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people.
[Matthew 24:11]
Many of his supporters and most of the news media have presented Barack Obama as a miracle-working Messiah who promises to cure all ills for everyone.
Following his historic election as President of the United States it was not uncommon to witness his faithful followers in the throes of adoration fitting for a Messiah.
The day after Barack Obama was elected president, Larry Younginer knelt in front of the congregants at his suburban Atlanta church and offered a prayer of thanks. "Lord, we have again come to you in prayer, and you have heard our cries from heaven, and you have sent us again from the state called Illinois, a man called Barack to heal our land."
Barack Obama promised "CHANGE".
Setting the campaign rhetoric aside and looking instead at his cadre of advisors, I don't think the change Obama has in mind is what the American people had in mind when they blindly elected one of the most outspoken collectivists so far.
Within the first six weeks of office, Barack Obama proposed spending programs that exceeds the total government spending of the U.S. since it's founding to Obama's enauguration. He has borrowed Trillions of dollars and ensured the slavery of our children for generations to come.
He sent his Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton, on a mission to China to beseech them to continue buying U.S. debt... and what did she use for collateral? Our children's lives and property.
One central tenant to the New World Order is the belief in creating a master race that rules the world. For the New World Order, a world government is just the beginning. Once in place they can engage their plan to exterminate 80% of the world's population, while enabling the "elites" to live forever with the aid of advanced technology.
Shortly after being sworn in to office, this half white black faced president reversed Bush policies protecting innocent babies and opened the door for the mass extermination of millions of helpless lives around the world. Not only did he provide funding for Chineese style eugenics programs, he also lowered the barriers protecting unborn babies from being used as a commodity to be traded in the profitable scientific research market.
The Obama Deception
The Obama Deception is a hard-hitting film that completely destroys the myth that Barack Obama is working for the best interests of the American people. The Obama phenomenon is a hoax carefully crafted by the captains of the New World Order. He is being pushed as savior in an attempt to con the American people into accepting global slavery. We have reached a critical juncture in the New World Orders plans. Its not about Left or Right: its about a One World Government. The international banks plan to loot the people of the United States and turn them into slaves on a Global Plantation.
The Global Age is right upon us.
It is on the horizon of our lifetime.
This New World Order is not some prophetically speculative or futuristic fairy tale, but a real world reality. It is not some "wacko conspiracy theory" advanced by the fringe of society like the powers that be would have us believe. It is not a "conspiracy," rather it's an agenda. Anybody that will end their soma induced "holiday" and unplug from the delusional "matrix" will see the evidence all around them.
It has been a long time in the making, its pieces fitting into place from divergent realms and different players. Gears and levers of history have been moved and adjusted, and a large-scale game of Monopoly has been played, with real currency and real assets shifting hands - a game with very real winners and losers.
The players in this grand deception understand it is a dangerous and risky undertaking, for they are vastly outnumbered. If average Americans woke up and understood their true agenda, there would be an uprising of revolutionary proportions.
Therefore, demonizing the opposition and controlling people through disinformation and fear is critical as they conceal their true agenda. Published government documents characterize patriots as terrorists and a threat to law enforcement. World economic systems are threatened with catastrophic consequences unless the international banksters are allowed to consolidate their power into a global banking system.
"It is well the people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning." - Henry Ford
Even though the power of a small group of International banksters is colossal today according to Harvard and Princeton professor emeritus, Carroll Quigley, they are finding it increasingly difficult to conceal their true nature. He said of this group:
"Their aim is nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. The system was to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences." (Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope (New York: The Macmillan Co., 1966)
Alas, a New World Order
While it is nearly impossible to accurately trace the interlocking agendas of these organizations, the supernatural dimension is the one that gives the puzzle meaning. While some may ascribe leadership of the New World Order to elitists's in the Bilderbergers, Trilateral Commission or Council of Foreign Relations, the truth is these people are mere pawns in a much grander agenda of the Antichrist.
He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark of his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name. [Revelation 13:16-17]
Scripture tells us of the establishment of a New World Order by the Antichrist in the last days. Indeed, the devil must have a dictatorial form of government if he is to rule the world. It is being slowly implemented in our governments through legislation and in our churches with a new spirituality until ultimately it will be in the hands of an elite of intelligent politically-connected religious-minded people in league with the Antichrist.~ Insults Should Be Written In Sand ~ Compliments Should Be Carved In Stone ~
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My understanding is that the devil is chained up in heaven. He is supposed to be released and come to earth posing as Jesus. King Jesus. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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Terry Terry Terry......no no no.....please understand that the Devil is alive and well and freely moving about AMONG US!!!!!!
mY O MY... les see,,,,yes Look in the early of the book of Job, and you see where he is in attendance at several meetings, and he sez he has been going "to and fro" in the earth,
and there is Rev 12 where it says there was "war in heaven and the dragon, (who is satan) was cast out of heavon onto the earth, ......"woe to the inhabitors of the earth for the devil has come down unto you having great wrath.....
I'm doing this from memory, (I'm at the library).....but I'm sure there are even more texts than that......
oh yes, remember when Peter told Jesus that he wasn't going to die, and Jesus looked at him and said "get thee behind me satan"........? remmeber that?
and there we the fabulus temptations of Christ that Satan appeared to him in the wilderness after the 40 days and nights of fasting, and he tempted Jesus.
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In the Bible when it says that satan was chained and bound it means that during the 1000 years which occurrs after the Second Coming, satan and his angels will be alone on this earth with no one to tempt and torment.......until after the 1000 years and then you have the resurrection of the wicked and then satan is loosed out of his solitary confinement, cause now he has people to round up and tempt and try to take the Holy City.
No at this time, until the Second Coming, Satan and his angels are loose and active in the earth, and kicking our butts. That is why we need to be close to Jesus. He is our only protection against the devel.!
Jeremiah 6:
16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
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http://www.threeworldwars.com/new-world-order.htmWhat is the New World Order?
New World Order Definition
Introduction
The following article is extracted from an excellent analysis of the New World Order by author Ken Adachi which can be found at educate-yourself.org.
The term New World Order (NWO) has been used by numerous politicians through the ages, and is a generic term used to refer to a worldwide conspiracy being orchestrated by an extremely powerful and influential group of genetically-related individuals (at least at the highest echelons) which include many of the world's wealthiest people, top political leaders, and corporate elite, as well as members of the so-called Black Nobility of Europe (dominated by the British Crown) whose goal is to create a One World (fascist) Government, stripped of nationalistic and regional boundaries, that is obedient to their agenda.
Listen to the Zionist* banker, Paul Warburg:
"We will have a world government whether you like it or not. The only question is whether that government will be achieved by conquest or consent." (February 17, 1950, as he testified before the US Senate).
Their intention is to effect complete and total control over every human being on the planet and to dramatically reduce the world's population by two thirds. While the name New World Order is the term most frequently used today to loosely refer to anyone involved in this conspiracy, the study of exactly who makes up this group is a complex and intricate one. For further research sources, please see the side bar on the left.
In 1992, Dr John Coleman published Conspirators Hierarchy: The Story of the Committee of 300. With laudable scholarship and meticulous research, Dr Coleman identifies the players and carefully details the New World Order agenda of worldwide domination and control. On page 161 of the Conspirators Hierarchy, Dr Coleman accurately summarizes the intent and purpose of the Committee of 300 as follows:
"A One World Government and one-unit monetary system, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists who self-select from among their numbers in the form of a feudal system as it was in the Middle Ages. In this One World entity, population will be limited by restrictions on the number of children per family, diseases, wars, famines, until 1 billion people who are useful to the ruling class, in areas which will be strictly and clearly defined, remain as the total world population.
There will be no middle class, only rulers and the servants. All laws will be uniform under a legal system of world courts practicing the same unified code of laws, backed up by a One World Government police force and a One World unified military to enforce laws in all former countries where no national boundaries shall exist. The system will be on the basis of a welfare state; those who are obedient and subservient to the One World Government will be rewarded with the means to live; those who are rebellious will simply be starved to death or be declared outlaws, thus a target for anyone who wishes to kill them. Privately owned firearms or weapons of any kind will be prohibited."
Why the Conspiracy is Unknown
The sheer magnitude and complex web of deceit surrounding the individuals and organizations involved in this conspiracy is mind boggling, even for the most astute among us. Most people react with disbelief and skepticism towards the topic, unaware that they have been conditioned (brainwashed) to react with skepticism by institutional and media influences. Author and de-programmer Fritz Springmeier (The Top 13 Illuminati Bloodlines) says that most people have built in "slides" that short circuit the mind's critical examination process when it comes to certain sensitive topics. "Slides", Springmeier reports, is a CIA term for a conditioned type of response which dead ends a person's thinking and terminates debate or examination of the topic at hand. For example, the mention of the word "conspiracy" often solicits a slide response with many people.
What most people believe to be "Public Opinion" is in reality carefully crafted and scripted propaganda designed to elicit a desired behavioral response from the public. Public opinion polls are really taken with the intent of gauging the public's acceptance of the New World Order's planned programs. A strong showing in the polls tells them that the programming is "taking", while a poor showing tells the NWO manipulators that they have to recast or "tweak" the programming until the desired response is achieved.
The NWO Modus Operandi
The NWO global conspirators manifest their agenda through the skilful manipulation of human emotions, especially fear. In the past centuries, they have repeatedly utilized a contrivance that NWO researcher and author David Icke has characterized in his latest book, The Biggest Secret, as Problem, Reaction, and Solution.
The technique is as follows: NWO strategists create the Problem - by funding , assembling, and training an "opposition" group to stimulate turmoil in an established political power (sovereign country, region, continent, etc.) that they wish to impinge upon and thus create opposing factions in a conflict that the NWO themselves maneuvered into existence. In recent decades, so called opposition groups are usually identified in the media as 'freedom fighters' or 'liberators'.
At the same time, the leader of the established political power where the conflict is being orchestrated is demonized and, on cue, referred to as 'another Hitler' (take your pick: Saddam Hussein, Milosevic, Kadaffi, etc.). The 'freedom fighters' are not infrequently assembled from a local criminal element (i.e. KLA, drug traffickers). In the spirit of true Machiavellian deceit, the same NWO strategists are equally involved in covertly arming and advising the leader of the established power as well (the NWO always profits from any armed conflict by loaning money, arming, and supplying all parties involved in a war).
The conflict is drawn to the world stage by the controlled media outlets with a barrage of photos and video tape reports of horrific and bloody atrocities suffered by innocent civilians. The cry goes up "Something has to be done!" And that is the desired Reaction.
The NWO puppeteers then provide the Solution by sending in UN 'Peace Keepers' (Bosnia) or a UN 'Coalition Force' (Gulf War) or NATO Bombers and then ground troops (Kosovo), or the military to 'search for Weapons of Mass Destruction', which of course are never found. Once installed, the 'peace keepers' never leave. The idea is to have NWO controlled ground troops in all major countries or strategic areas where significant resistance to the New World Order takeover is likely to be encountered.
Who is the NWO?
The corporate portion of the NWO is dominated by international bankers, oil barons and pharmaceutical cartels, as well as other major multinational corporations. The Royal Family of England, namely Queen Elizabeth II and the House of Windsor, (who are, in fact, descendants of the German arm of European Royalty - the Saxe-Coburg-Gotha family - changed the name to Windsor in 1914), are high level players in the oligarchy which controls the upper strata of the NWO. The decision making nerve centers of this effort are in London (especially the City of London), Basel Switzerland, and Brussels (NATO headquarters).
The United Nations, along with all the agencies working under the UN umbrella, such as the World Health Organization (WHO), are full time players in this scheme. Similarly, NATO is a military tool of the NWO.
The leaders of all major industrial countries like the United States, England, Germany, Italy, Australia, New Zealand, etc. (members of the "G7/G8" ) are active and fully cooperative participants in this conspiracy. In this century, the degree of control exerted by the NWO has advanced to the point that only certain hand-picked individuals, who are groomed and selected are even eligible to become the prime minister or president of countries like England, Germany, or The United States. It didn't matter whether Bill Clinton or Bob Dole won the Presidency in 1996, the results would have been the same. Both men are playing on the same team for the same ball club. Anyone who isn't a team player is taken out: i.e. President Kennedy, Ali Bhutto (Pakistan) and Aldo Moro (Italy). More recently, Admiral Borda and William Colby were also killed because they were either unwilling to go along with the conspiracy to destroy America, weren't cooperating in some capacity, or were attempting to expose/ thwart the takeover agenda.
The NWO's Role in Shaping History
Most of the major wars, political upheavals, and economic depression/recessions of the past 100 years (and earlier) were carefully planned and instigated by the machinations of these elites. They include The Spanish-American War (1898), World War I and World War II; The Great Depression; the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917; the Rise of Nazi Germany; the Korean War; the Vietnam War; the 1989-91 "fall" of Soviet Communism; the 1991 Gulf War; the War in Kosovo; and the two Iraq wars. Even the French Revolution was orchestrated into existence by elements of the NWO.
The instigation of a trumped-up war as a cover for amassing fortunes which can be dated back to at least the 12th Century when only a core group of nine members of the Knights Templar, kicked off the The Crusades that lasted for over a century and a half.
The core group mentioned above have been reported as being the military arm of a secret society known as the Priory of Sion, but this has been proven to be a hoax,
In 1307, the king of France, Philippe the Fair, coveted the wealth and was jealous of the Templars' power. The French king set out to arrest all the Templars in France on October 13. While many Templars were seized and tortured, including their Grand Master, Jacques de Molay, many other Templars (who had been tipped off) escaped. They eventually resurfaced in Portugal, in Malta (as the Knights of Malta) and later in Scotland as The Scottish Rites of Freemasonry, with Albert Pike playing a key role in defining a plan for establishing a world government.
The acquisition and consolidation of ever greater wealth, natural resources, total political power, and control over others are the motivating forces which drive the decisions of the NWO leaders. The toll in human suffering and the loss of innocent lives are non issues for these individuals.
Next: The New World Order Timeline.
Previous: World War 1 and World War 2 compared.
The preceding article was extracted from an excellent analysis of the New World Order by author Ken Adachi which can be found at http://educate-yourself.org/nwo/.
* See Zionism for a discussion of the difference between Zionism and Judaism.
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If anyone has doubts regarding our Governments involvement in the "The New World Order" with other world leaders then you need to listen to the Video's in this link.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a9Syi12RJo
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I can't use the link because my connection speed is way to slow to do videos unless they can be downloaded and played back offline.
Elements of the NWO have been creeping into the world in insidious ways. Some elements seem to be quite beneficial on the surface. Whether this is indeed a conspiracy that has been unfolding for the past century or just a lot of co-incidental events, it seems some of these events have been foretold and are now coming to pass.
It is far easier to overcome a population with "reason and understanding" then to conquer with tanks and artillery. Violence and force will always bring resentment, distrust and hatred, it is a populace controlled by fear. If, however, the minds of the people are quietly and secretly "attacked" you have a willing people to govern without firing a single shot.
At the present time, a days wages for a loaf of bread is a reality in some distant "third world" peoples. We have been isolated from true struggle to survive for quite some time, however, the day WILL come for all those on the earth to be brought low and learn the true meaning of suffering. Even the rich will share the woes of a peasant. The one that comes to power and addresses all the woes of the world and brings peace and seeming liberty will be some part or portion of the current NWO hierarchy.
There will be some "common sense" laws and adjustments in the world. We are walking down the road of NWO progression such as the World Health Organization, The World Bank and even the way we do our own personal banking. "Problems" will always be popping up here and there and there will be many little "fixes" to solve seemingly unrelated issues like identity theft and terrorist screening at airports around the world. Each "fix" just marches us further down the road and once you get down it so far, there will be no way to turn back time and undo the "fixes."
One area where skepticism rules is in developing a world currency, but the people of the world, myself included, have been all too happy and accommodating. Kihisho was trying to show that money, the actual stuff we put into our pockets, is worthless. The ONLY value money has is what everyone is agreed to settle on. It can be "worth" a lot if the paper has large numbers printed like 20, 50 or 100 on it, yet that same piece of paper could just as well have been "worth" practically nothing with numbers like 1 or 5 printed on the very same piece of paper.
Despite the fact that every nation has their currency with their numbers printed on it, if I want to order genuine silver crystal from Germany, I don't need to have their currency or even know what numbers are printed on THEIR currency. Who gives a second thought about using a credit card or debit card?
Think VISA... it's everywhere you want to be......Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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Bummer Greg!
I was hoping you could see some of those videos. They are very eye opening! Anyhow, I am going to wait on posting here till this storm is over. I've lost 3 very long posts cause of the hi winds already. I wanted to SCREAM! I'm not a good typists at all. Just learned (self taught) about 1 1/2 yr ago so as you could imagine its alot of work for me and I just hate to work on something for a couple of hours only to lose it. Grrrrrr......... I am working on some stuff though for this thread and will post it when the storm passes. I didn't want anyone thinking I was ignoring them. Its just the same old, same old........BS!
Oh yeah, one more thing. If you guys are still having problems with your e-mail service it might help if everyone writes support about it. I like the changes here but the e-mail keeps asking me to log-in over and over and takes forever to load. Same problems we were having prior to the new portal. Very frustrating!!!
I'll delete this post after the storm passes.
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Sarge,
My email has always been bad.
I have a series of work-arounds that I have developed to be able to use it at all.
The stuff it does makes no sense at all.
- I open my email to view the inbox.
- I see there is an unread message, so I click on it.
- I am booted out for a log-in.
Because the system does that after two hours, even though it has been less than two minutes.
- Then wait to get back into my email inbox.
- When I finally get back to it. My unread message is marked as read.
- So now I can read it. (unless I get booted out again)
- Okay, now I want to reply to the email message that I was finally able to read.
- I spend some time composing a thoughtful reply.
- I hit send. (bad idea)
- I am booted out again. (the two hour rule is cited)
- When I finally get back in, my message is gone.
It wasn't sent. It wasn't saved. Grrr...
- Start over.
So here are the work-arounds.
- Nothing can be done about being booted out constantly. (as far as I know)
- To be able to reply to emails I use this self-defense method.
1) Copy the text of my reply message.
Then if I am booted out, I still have it saved on my clipboard and can paste it into a new reply.
2) Save the email reply as a draft. Then it is saved in my email.
If this fails due to being booted out. Return to step one.
3) Open the reply draft. Select the "save to sent folder" button.
4) Pray (optional)
5) Hit send.
6) Navigate around in circles until you locate your sent folder.
7) See if your message was sent.
8) Open your message to see if it contains any text.
9) Repeat this process for all your email replies.
10) Or, set up a free email account with another company and avoid all these headaches.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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sarge wrote:Bummer Greg!
I was hoping you could see some of those videos. They are very eye opening! Anyhow, I am going to wait on posting here till this storm is over. I've lost 3 very long posts cause of the hi winds already. I wanted to SCREAM! I'm not a good typists at all. Just learned (self taught) about 1 1/2 yr ago so as you could imagine its alot of work for me and I just hate to work on something for a couple of hours only to lose it. Grrrrrr......... I am working on some stuff though for this thread and will post it when the storm passes. I didn't want anyone thinking I was ignoring them. Its just the same old, same old........BS!
Oh yeah, one more thing. If you guys are still having problems with your e-mail service it might help if everyone writes support about it. I like the changes here but the e-mail keeps asking me to log-in over and over and takes forever to load. Same problems we were having prior to the new portal. Very frustrating!!!
I'll delete this post after the storm passes.
Sarge May I suggest that you type your post in Word then copy and paste to the forum. A extra benefit is you can spell check it. I never read my email on line. I use MS outlook and have no problems with email. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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Thanks Steve, Greg
Today I found out that it wasn't IE giving me all the problems afterall. My son worked on my computer for almost 4 hours. AVG was the biggest problem. He put Avast on and its free for a year. The CPU was at 100% and there were alot of other problems too. He fixed everything and my computer has never run better, I love it!!! I wish I could work on it like him but I figure he's here and knows what hes doing. Besides, I would only screw it up worse than I already did. K, I'm back!
Sarge Oh yeah, If I go with another e-mail provider I can't use "Sarge", its already taken and I don't want to be Sarge8547........LOl! ~ Insults Should Be Written In Sand ~ Compliments Should Be Carved In Stone ~
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http://www.stop-obama.info/
Here we have information about our President. Everyone, click on the link and study up. Did you know the President has refused to put his hand over his heart during The Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem? Why? There's more I didn't know about until after he was elected. Seems the media has opted not to "tell the whole truth".
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sarge wrote:http://www.stop-obama.info/
Here we have information about our President. Everyone, click on the link and study up. Did you know the President has refused to put his hand over his heart during The Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem? Why? There's more I didn't know about until after he was elected. Seems the media has opted not to "tell the whole truth".
Sarge I am a bit disappointed that you choose to post such an extreme web site as a source of information about Obama.
I don't know of any time Obama "refused" to put his hand over his heart. There were a few times he was at a public event where he did not put his hand over his heart. I don't believe there was any intentional snubbing or disregard on his part. I don't typically place my hand on my heart for any purpose, not even to recite the Pledge or to sing the Star Spangled Banner... but that does not make me any less of an American and it shouldn't be a judge of my character or grounds to assume I, or Obama, are not loyal American citizens.
It is easy to get the flavor of the site by looking on the right side of the page with buttons for "Important links." The list of "Important links" includes Glen Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, the Tea Party Express and other less notable, but none the less far right people and organizations such as jewsagainstobama.org, exposeobama.com and Randy's Right.
Most of the links cover old "news" and distortions that have been debunked before the election.Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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sarge wrote:Thanks Steve, Greg
Today I found out that it wasn't IE giving me all the problems afterall. My son worked on my computer for almost 4 hours. AVG was the biggest problem. He put Avast on and its free for a year. The CPU was at 100% and there were alot of other problems too. He fixed everything and my computer has never run better, I love it!!! I wish I could work on it like him but I figure he's here and knows what hes doing. Besides, I would only screw it up worse than I already did. K, I'm back!
Sarge Oh yeah, If I go with another e-mail provider I can't use "Sarge", its already taken and I don't want to be Sarge8547........LOl! Sarge, I have AVG and it has never given me any trouble. And it's been free for as long as I have had it (about 6 years maybe). MS Outlook is a mail reader that allows you to download and read your email on your computer. You may have Outlook Express or Windows live mail on your computer. You have to set up an account for your email. May be another job for your son. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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Intangible wrote:sarge wrote:http://www.stop-obama.info/
Here we have information about our President. Everyone, click on the link and study up. Did you know the President has refused to put his hand over his heart during The Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem? Why? There's more I didn't know about until after he was elected. Seems the media has opted not to "tell the whole truth".
Sarge I am a bit disappointed that you choose to post such an extreme web site as a source of information about Obama.
I don't know of any time Obama "refused" to put his hand over his heart. There were a few times he was at a public event where he did not put his hand over his heart. I don't believe there was any intentional snubbing or disregard on his part. I don't typically place my hand on my heart for any purpose, not even to recite the Pledge or to sing the Star Spangled Banner... but that does not make me any less of an American and it shouldn't be a judge of my character or grounds to assume I, or Obama, are not loyal American citizens.
It is easy to get the flavor of the site by looking on the right side of the page with buttons for "Important links." The list of "Important links" includes Glen Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, the Tea Party Express and other less notable, but none the less far right people and organizations such as jewsagainstobama.org, exposeobama.com and Randy's Right.
Most of the links cover old "news" and distortions that have been debunked before the election. I have no reason to assume that you OR Obama are not citizens of the USA . We are not the only Amaericans. I do question your's and Obama's loyalty to the Constitution of The USA. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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THIS COMPLAINT IS CHICKEN FEED.
THERE'S MORE PRESSING MATTERS.
LIKE:
1. OBAMA;S 1ST ACTION IN OFFICE WAS TO ISSUE AN EX. ORDER SEALING ALL HIS RECORDS ( IF YOUR NOT GUILTY WHY HIDE ?)
2.HIS MOTHER WAS TOO YOUNG UNDER THE LAW, TO CONFER CITIZENSHIP, IF HE WAS BORN IN HAWAII.
3. A CERTIFICATE OF LIVE BIRTH IS NOT A BIRTH CERTIFICATE, THERE'S NO DOCTOR NAMED, NO HOSPITAL, NO WEIGHTS, ETC,ETC.
4.HE NEVER LEGALLY CHANGED HIS NAME TO OBAMA, HIS NAME IS BERRY SHAPIRO.
5.IF HE'S A CITIZEN, THEN HE COMMITTED FRAUD BY RECEIVING FOREIGN AID FOR SCHOOL WHILE POSING AS AN INDONESIAN STUDENT.
6.IN ORDER TO BE AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN, YOU MUST BE MUSLIM AND RENOUNCE YOUR AMERICAN CITIZENSHIP.
7.PERSONS WITH DUAL CITIZENSHIP ARE BARRED FROM THE PRESIDENCY.
8.BY EXCEPTING THE NOBEL PEACE PRIZE WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF CONGRESS, OBAMA IS IN CONTEMPT OF CONGRESS.
9. BY BECOMING THE SEC, GEN. OF THE UN WHILE ALSO THE PREZ, HE COMMITTED TREASON.
10.AND THERE'S MORE...
GO TO PHIL BERGS SITE, OBAMACRIMES.COM
THIS IS THE MAN SUING OBAMA, THOSE OTHER SITES ARE SECOND HAND NEWS.
OBAMA IS A FRAUD, PROB AN ILEAGLE ALIEN AND HE'S A SPY.
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I clicked on the website, as Sarge asked, and I can say that the "information" we get about our president on that website is false information, and invective against the America I have known and respected and loved all of my life. Who are these bitter people, with hearts two sizes too small? They are against everything!  I can send a letter anywhere in the country, including Alaska and Hawaii, for $.44 and know for sure that it will be delivered to someone's door in a day or two; they call that a "broken system"! Social Security provides for millions of people to allow them a retirement in their old age, and also provides for millions of dependent children and others who would otherwise be destitute and desperate, and they call that "broken." The same thing with Medicare; I am so happy that this year I will be eligible for Medicare; I don't think of it as "broken". The Obama haters are misanthropic malcontents and rabble rousers who are trying to foment trouble; they appeal to the worst side of people; they are spreading cruel and vicious lies. I urge you all to renounce and rebuke them. 
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