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nestgotjesus wrote:sak1 wrote:Good Morning you two,I hope today finds you both well. I guess it's just us three now.
I don't know why Sarge isn't here i haven't found out why he is upset. I love you all.
I wish things were different but i am just upset that everyone left us. I'm still here,even though I don't post as much!  Hello Kay,
Maybe now that things are more peaceful around here, you will want to post more.
That would be GREAT!!!!!!!!!
I am the vine; you are the branches... apart from me you can do nothing. - John 15:5
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Thanks Steve.
I have been reading and there is alot on here for me to digest but it is good!!
Sarge, I want to thank you for the nice things you said to me . I can't find the post now but I wanted you to know that I appreciated it.
I hope you know that we who are here posting love you two but like I told you, I will respect your decision and support you in it but that doesn't mean I have to like it. lol
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stevelundgren wrote:TerryD wrote:stevelundgren wrote:TerryD wrote:
That's right. Makes you wonder which is the word of God?
They both are.
I said, seeming contradiction. They are both true. You have tons more faith than I do. This doesn't require much faith.
Any rookie detective could figure this out.
Let's look at the historical facts.
The historical document (scripture) says:
1) Judas took a bribe to betray Christ.
2) He did what he was paid to do.
3) From the bribe money, Judas bought a field.
4) He threw the balance of the money on the floor in the Temple.
5) He went out to the field he bought and hung himself.
6) He botched his own suicide hanging by falling to his death instead.
7) Falling headlong, his body burst open spilling his innards.
The case is solved.
To the skeptic, everything is suspect.
To the believer, everything fits somehow.
That's the difference.
That's a very logical explanation, but there are still contradictions. One account says the chief priests and elders bought the field. And the other says Judas bought it. Acts says the field was barren. I would think that means no trees. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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TerryD wrote:That's a very logical explanation, but there are still contradictions. One account says the chief priests and elders bought the field. And the other says Judas bought it. Acts says the field was barren. I would think that means no trees. That's funny.
To you, they are contradictions. (apparent contradictions)
To me, they are seeming contradictions.
If you want to round up the verses we could look into it.
When it comes to eye witness accounts, everybody's story is a little different.
The truth is at the center.
As I said:
To the skeptic, everything is suspect.
To the believer, everything fits somehow.
That's the difference.
Not to say that we aren't left with some mysteries, we have been.
Does that destroy my faith? Not a chance.
I am the vine; you are the branches... apart from me you can do nothing. - John 15:5
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stevelundgren wrote:TerryD wrote:That's a very logical explanation, but there are still contradictions. One account says the chief priests and elders bought the field. And the other says Judas bought it. Acts says the field was barren. I would think that means no trees. That's funny.
To you, they are contradictions. (apparent contradictions)
To me, they are seeming contradictions.
If you want to round up the verses we could look into it.
When it comes to eye witness accounts, everybody's story is a little different.
The truth is at the center.
As I said:
To the skeptic, everything is suspect.
To the believer, everything fits somehow.
That's the difference.
Not to say that we aren't left with some mysteries, we have been.
Does that destroy my faith? Not a chance.
I'm not trying to destroy your faith. I'm just tyring to explain my viewpoint. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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TerryD wrote:I'm not trying to destroy your faith. I'm just tyring to explain my viewpoint. Yes, that's good. I did not feel that you were trying to destroy my faith.
I appreciate the fact that you and I can discuss these things in a non-confrontational way.
At least, I hope you see it that way too.
I am the vine; you are the branches... apart from me you can do nothing. - John 15:5
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stevelundgren wrote:TerryD wrote:I'm not trying to destroy your faith. I'm just tyring to explain my viewpoint. Yes, that's good. I did not feel that you were trying to destroy my faith.
I appreciate the fact that you and I can discuss these things in a non-confrontational way.
At least, I hope you see it that way too.
Yes, I might even learn something. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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TerryD wrote:Yes, I might even learn something. Yes, I might too. lol
I would be happy to call you friend, if you don't mind.
I am the vine; you are the branches... apart from me you can do nothing. - John 15:5
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stevelundgren wrote:TerryD wrote:Yes, I might even learn something. Yes, I might too. lol
I would be happy to call you friend, if you don't mind.
I have no problem with that. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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TerryD wrote:stevelundgren wrote:TerryD wrote:Yes, I might even learn something. Yes, I might too. lol
I would be happy to call you friend, if you don't mind. I have no problem with that. Okay.
Have a good day my friend. 
I am the vine; you are the branches... apart from me you can do nothing. - John 15:5
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On Discovery Channel now :Who Framed Jesus". "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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