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stevelundgren wrote:TerryD wrote:I'm saying that Jesus told his followers to celebrate Passover in remembrance of him. Somewhere along the way it became Easter and was changed to celebration of the Resurrection. That is not what Jesus wanted. Jesus was pretty clear with his disciples about what he was asking them to do. And it was not to celebrate Passover. Consider these facts.
1) The Passover is in remembrance of the Exodus.
The Lord's Supper is in remembrance of the crucifixion.
2) The Passover is a jewish tradition.
The Lord's Supper is a Christian Tradition.
3) The Lord's Supper is rarely celebrated on Easter.
The Lord's Supper is celebrated often during the year.
Weekly in many churches, monthly in most, less often in some.
4) The symbolism in The Lord's Supper relates to the crucifixion, not to Passover.
The bread symbolizes HIS broken body. The blood symbolizes HIS shed blood.
5) The other symbolic elements of Passover are not found in The Lord's Supper.
There is something in the Passover that relates directly to The Lord's Supper that many overlook.
The sacrificial lamb was killed, but until the blood was applied the death threat was still in force.
The same is true of Christ. The sacrifice was made, but unless the blood is "applied" (through trust and belief), the death penalty still applies.
Yes and Christ is The sacrificial lamb. It all relates back to my first point here. Paul contradicts Jesus. Christianity should be called Paulianity. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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TerryD wrote:Yes and Christ is The sacrificial lamb.
It all relates back to my first point here. Paul contradicts Jesus. Christianity should be called Paulianity. It's a matter of perspective.
When you look at it, you see a puzzle.
When I look at it, I see the completed picture.
I wish you could see it. It's truly beautiful Terry.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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Hey Steve, Sorry to interrupt but have you heard from Sarge or Misty, I have sent two emails and
i haven't got a response yet. I leave messages on the forum but i still haven't heard anything,
I don't know if they are mad at me or what. If you hear from them please let me know and tell
them to email me please. Love you.
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Btw how are you tonight i hope this post finds you and yours fine
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Good Morning all you thread buddies. Happy sabbath to each of you! Today is the 7th day of the week, it is Saturday, the holy day!
Isaiah 58:13-14
13If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
14Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
Any time you wish we could talk about the Ninth Commandment, do you know which one that is?
Ex 20:16Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.
To tell a lie. Perhaps we should preach on that one? According to the "law-nailers", this commandment was done away with too.
Must be, cause even our Congress is expert at it.
Oh Terry.....as regards fruits and veggies......sure they spray them and such, but when we sit down to a meal, we fold our hands and close our eyes and ask God to bless what we are about to eat.
If you and I have done our best, then he picks up the slack.
Don't you think?
*March 20–26 The Fruit of the Spirit: The
Essence of Christian Character
sabbath afternoon
Read for This Week’s Study: Matt. 6:33, John 15:8, Rom. 3:20–26, 14:17, 1 Tim. 6:11, 1 John 2:15.
Memory Text: “To them God willed to make known what are the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles: which is Christ in you, the hope of glory” (Colossians 1:27, NKJV).
When Moses asked God to show him His glory, it was then that the Lord revealed to him His character as merciful, gracious, longsuffering, and abundant in goodness and truth (Exod. 34:6). And so when “we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, [we] are changed into the same image from glory [character] to glory [character], even as by the Spirit of the Lord” (2 Cor. 3:18).
“By believing in Christ, the fallen race he has redeemed may obtain that faith which works by love and purifies the soul from all defile- ment. Then Christlike attributes appear: for by beholding Christ men become changed into the same image from glory to glory, from char- acter to character. Good fruit is produced. The character is fashioned after the divine similitude, and integrity, uprightness, and true benevo- lence are manifested.”—Ellen G. White, My Life Today, p. 54.
*Study this week’s lesson to prepare for Sabbath, March 27.
Jeremiah 6:
16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
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Hey there North America and parts west, I was reading this week and thought to share this with you.......
Very soon thereafter a few of the chief men of Israel approached Ezra with a serious complaint. Some of "the people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites" had so far disregarded the holy commands of Jehovah as to intermarry
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with the surrounding peoples. "They have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons," Ezra was told, "so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people" of heathen lands; "yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass." Ezra 9:1, 2.
In his study of the causes leading to the Babylonish captivity, Ezra had learned that Israel's apostasy was largely traceable to their mingling with heathen nations. He had seen that if they had obeyed God's command to keep separate from the nations surrounding them, they would have been spared many sad and humiliating experiences. Now when he learned that notwithstanding the lessons of the past, men of prominence had dared transgress the laws given as a safeguard against apostasy, his heart was stirred within him. He thought of God's goodness in again giving His people a foothold in their native land, and he was overwhelmed with righteous indignation and with grief at their ingratitude. "When I heard this thing," he says, "I rent my garment and my mantle, and plucked off the hair of my head and of my beard, and sat down astonied.
"Then were assembled unto me everyone that trembled at the words of God of Israel, because of the transgression of those that had been carried away; and I sat astonied until the evening sacrifice." Verses 3, 4.
At the time of the evening sacrifice Ezra rose, and, once more rending his garment and his mantle, he fell upon his knees and unburdened his soul in supplication to Heaven. Spreading out his hands unto the Lord, he exclaimed, "O my God, I am ashamed and blush to lift up my face to
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Thee, my God: for our iniquities are increased over our head, and our trespass is grown up unto the heavens.
"Since the days of our fathers," the suppliant continued, "have we been in a great trespass unto this day; and for our iniquities have we, our kings, and our priests, been delivered into the hand of the kings of the lands, to the sword, to captivity, and to a spoil, and to confusion of face, as it is this day. And now for a little space grace hath been showed from the Lord our God, to leave us a remnant to escape, and to give us a nail in His holy place, that our God may lighten our eyes, and give us a little reviving in our bondage. For we were bondmen; yet our God hath not forsaken us in our bondage, but hath extended mercy unto us in the sight of the kings of Persia, to give us a reviving, to set up the house of our God, and to repair the desolations thereof, and to give us a wall in Judah and in Jerusalem.
"And now, O our God, what shall we say after this? for we have forsaken Thy commandments, which Thou hast commanded by Thy servants the prophets. . . . And after all that is come upon us for our evil deeds, and for our great trespass, seeing that Thou our God hast punished us less than our iniquities deserve, and hast given us such deliverance as this; should we again break Thy commandments, and join in affinity with the people of these abominations? wouldest not Thou be angry with us till Thou hadst consumed us, so that there should be no remnant nor escaping? O Lord God of Israel, Thou art righteous: for we remain yet escaped, as it is this day: behold, we are before Thee in our trespasses: for we cannot stand before Thee because of this." Verses 6-15.
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The sorrow of Ezra and his associates over the evils that had insidiously crept into the very heart of the Lord's work, wrought repentance. Many of those who had sinned were deeply affected. "The people wept very sore." Ezra 10:1. In a limited degree they began to realize the heinousness of sin and the horror with which God regards it. They saw the sacredness of the law spoken at Sinai, and many trembled at the thought of their transgressions.
One of those present, Shechaniah by name, acknowledged as true all the words spoken by Ezra. "We have trespassed against our God," he confessed, "and have taken strange wives of the people of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing." Shechaniah proposed that all who had transgressed should make a covenant with God to forsake their sin and to be adjudged "according to the law." "Arise," he bade Ezra; "for this matter belongeth unto thee: we also will be with thee: be of good courage." "Then arose Ezra, and made the chief priests, the Levites, and all Israel, to swear that they should do according to this word." Verses 2-5.
This was the beginning of a wonderful reformation. With infinite patience and tact, and with a careful consideration for the rights and welfare of every individual concerned, Ezra and his associates strove to lead the penitent of Israel into the right way. Above all else, Ezra was a teacher of the law; and as he gave personal attention to the examination of every case, he sought to impress the people with the holiness of this law and the blessings to be gained through obedience.
Jeremiah 6:
16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
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sak1 wrote:Hey Steve, Sorry to interrupt but have you heard from Sarge or Misty, I have sent two emails and
i haven't got a response yet. I leave messages on the forum but i still haven't heard anything,
I don't know if they are mad at me or what. If you hear from them please let me know and tell
them to email me please. Love you. Good morning Susan.
Hmm...
Yes, I haven't heard from Sarge in a while either. I see posts from Mysti.
Let's see if they show up today.
We might have to create a "Where's Sarge and Mysti?" topic to get their attention.
BTW: We are fine AND dandy. Hope you are well too. Been very busy.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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There are those who poston this thread who feel that the Ten Commandments do not apply to us anymore. That these laws were meant for another people in another time.
I submit to you that these laws, (The Ten Commandments) DO apply to us! To think otherwise is to cast aside the restrictions of right behaviour.
The root of the problem is "custom and tradition". We have been taught over hundreds of years stemming from the dark ages, to cater to the popular teachings and to not question.
Sundaykeeping is wrong. Other teachings emminating from the RCC is wrong.. The Bible is clear about Salvation through Christ and Him alone.
The breaking of the sabbath by professing Christians is not good. It is sin. Come to church today, this holy day of the week.
And if there is not a Seventh Day Adventist church in your locale, then keep the sabbath with your family. Turn off the TV, go to a park, or the zoo, get out into nature, visit the sick..........
Isaiah 58:13-14
13If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honourable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:
14Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it.
Worship God, our Creator.
Jeremiah 6:
16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
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paulwhut wrote:
There are those who poston this thread who feel that the Ten Commandments do not apply to us anymore. That these laws were meant for another people in another time.
I submit to you that these laws, (The Ten Commandments) DO apply to us! To think otherwise is to cast aside the restrictions of right behaviour.
Worship God, our Creator.
Paul, There you go posting on the sabbath again! The ten commandments were given to show us how corrupt we really are! No man can keep them! We need a savior, one who is perfect. We p;ace our trust in him, not ouself.
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paulwhut wrote:
Good Morning all you thread buddies. Happy sabbath to each of you! Today is the 7th day of the week, it is Saturday, the holy day!
Shouldn't you be taking today off? "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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paulwhut wrote:
Oh Terry.....as regards fruits and veggies......sure they spray them and such, but when we sit down to a meal, we fold our hands and close our eyes and ask God to bless what we are about to eat.
If you and I have done our best, then he picks up the slack.
Don't you think?
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I think if it works for veggies it ought to work for meat. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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paulwhut wrote:Hey there North America and parts west, I was reading this week and thought to share this with you.......
Very soon thereafter a few of the chief men of Israel approached Ezra with a serious complaint. Some of "the people of Israel, and the priests, and the Levites" had so far disregarded the holy commands of Jehovah as to intermarry
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with the surrounding peoples. "They have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons," Ezra was told, "so that the holy seed have mingled themselves with the people" of heathen lands; "yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this trespass." Ezra 9:1, 2.
In his study of the causes leading to the Babylonish captivity, Ezra had learned that Israel's apostasy was largely traceable to their mingling with heathen nations. He had seen that if they had obeyed God's command to keep separate from the nations surrounding them, they would have been spared many sad and humiliating experiences. Now when he learned that notwithstanding the lessons of the past, men of prominence had dared transgress the laws given as a safeguard against apostasy, his heart was stirred within him. He thought of God's goodness in again giving His people a foothold in their native land, and he was overwhelmed with righteous indignation and with grief at their ingratitude. "When I heard this thing," he says, "I rent my garment and my mantle, and plucked off the hair of my head and of my beard, and sat down astonied.
"Then were assembled unto me everyone that trembled at the words of God of Israel, because of the transgression of those that had been carried away; and I sat astonied until the evening sacrifice." Verses 3, 4.
At the time of the evening sacrifice Ezra rose, and, once more rending his garment and his mantle, he fell upon his knees and unburdened his soul in supplication to Heaven. Spreading out his hands unto the Lord, he exclaimed, "O my God, I am ashamed and blush to lift up my face to
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Thee, my God: for our iniquities are increased over our head, and our trespass is grown up unto the heavens.
"Since the days of our fathers," the suppliant continued, "have we been in a great trespass unto this day; and for our iniquities have we, our kings, and our priests, been delivered into the hand of the kings of the lands, to the sword, to captivity, and to a spoil, and to confusion of face, as it is this day. And now for a little space grace hath been showed from the Lord our God, to leave us a remnant to escape, and to give us a nail in His holy place, that our God may lighten our eyes, and give us a little reviving in our bondage. For we were bondmen; yet our God hath not forsaken us in our bondage, but hath extended mercy unto us in the sight of the kings of Persia, to give us a reviving, to set up the house of our God, and to repair the desolations thereof, and to give us a wall in Judah and in Jerusalem.
"And now, O our God, what shall we say after this? for we have forsaken Thy commandments, which Thou hast commanded by Thy servants the prophets. . . . And after all that is come upon us for our evil deeds, and for our great trespass, seeing that Thou our God hast punished us less than our iniquities deserve, and hast given us such deliverance as this; should we again break Thy commandments, and join in affinity with the people of these abominations? wouldest not Thou be angry with us till Thou hadst consumed us, so that there should be no remnant nor escaping? O Lord God of Israel, Thou art righteous: for we remain yet escaped, as it is this day: behold, we are before Thee in our trespasses: for we cannot stand before Thee because of this." Verses 6-15.
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The sorrow of Ezra and his associates over the evils that had insidiously crept into the very heart of the Lord's work, wrought repentance. Many of those who had sinned were deeply affected. "The people wept very sore." Ezra 10:1. In a limited degree they began to realize the heinousness of sin and the horror with which God regards it. They saw the sacredness of the law spoken at Sinai, and many trembled at the thought of their transgressions.
One of those present, Shechaniah by name, acknowledged as true all the words spoken by Ezra. "We have trespassed against our God," he confessed, "and have taken strange wives of the people of the land: yet now there is hope in Israel concerning this thing." Shechaniah proposed that all who had transgressed should make a covenant with God to forsake their sin and to be adjudged "according to the law." "Arise," he bade Ezra; "for this matter belongeth unto thee: we also will be with thee: be of good courage." "Then arose Ezra, and made the chief priests, the Levites, and all Israel, to swear that they should do according to this word." Verses 2-5.
This was the beginning of a wonderful reformation. With infinite patience and tact, and with a careful consideration for the rights and welfare of every individual concerned, Ezra and his associates strove to lead the penitent of Israel into the right way. Above all else, Ezra was a teacher of the law; and as he gave personal attention to the examination of every case, he sought to impress the people with the holiness of this law and the blessings to be gained through obedience.
I'll probably be in trouble for saying it, but the Israelis have been trouble makers throughout history and continue to be today. Consider the incident with the vice president. With friends like that, we don't need any other enemies. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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stevelundgren wrote:sak1 wrote:Hey Steve, Sorry to interrupt but have you heard from Sarge or Misty, I have sent two emails and
i haven't got a response yet. I leave messages on the forum but i still haven't heard anything,
I don't know if they are mad at me or what. If you hear from them please let me know and tell
them to email me please. Love you. Good morning Susan.
Hmm...
Yes, I haven't heard from Sarge in a while either. I see posts from Mysti.
Let's see if they show up today.
We might have to create a "Where's Sarge and Mysti?" topic to get their attention.
BTW: We are fine AND dandy. Hope you are well too. Been very busy.
Maybe they have other things to do besides being on the forum 16 hrs a day "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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TerryD wrote:paulwhut wrote:
Good Morning all you thread buddies. Happy sabbath to each of you! Today is the 7th day of the week, it is Saturday, the holy day!
Shouldn't you be taking today off? Sunday is his day of rest. lol
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"Paul, There you go posting on the sabbath again! The ten commandments were given to show us how corrupt we really are! No man can keep them! We need a savior, one who is perfect. We p;ace our trust in him, not our self." Wait, C, what you say is true, of myself I can do nothing right. I ask God to help me read a rule, to drive down the road, to digest the meal I ate.
You are correct, I can not obey/keep those Ten Commandments!
But Jesus living within me can. Somewhere it says "I can do all things through Christ Jesus".
I have to make every effort, I have to ask Jesus to help me to be good. I have to ask Jesus to help me think good thoughts and to get rid of the bad thoughts.
Obeying God is showing my love and appreciation for him....
However he will not help me do something I do not wish to do, or that I do not ask hem to do.
I want to do good, to please God.
Jesus says, in John 14 "if you love me.........keep my commandments"..........and knowing Jesus, that he wrote those commandments, and that he had to die the death that I'm supposed to die (the second death),,,,,,,,
it behooves me to make every effort to obey him. He makes his request in those Ten Commandments.
Jeremiah 6:
16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
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"I'll probably be in trouble for saying it, but the Israelis have been trouble makers throughout history and continue to be today. Consider the incident with the vice president. With friends like that, we don't need any other enemies." Hey Terry, you are safe! As far as the VP is concerned, The man looks like a crooked car salesman if ever I saw one. I have not heard one good thing about the VP.......he is in the same category as the the House Speaker and her inner circle.....and the Pres.
And the Israelits fighting those Philistines.....been going on and will not end till Jesus come back.
Both of these tribes are decendants of Abraham and will forever be at odds.
Nope, no peace over there, and none here either. Look at congress.
.......and the rigamarole about tomorrows' vote on the health bill.
bunch of crooks they are!
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Good Morning to all of you dear people....
Well the world is continuing to explode, earthquakes volcanoes, civil unrest, wars, satan and his angels are wrecking the planet as best they can.
The most striking sign of the times is the Bible ignorance.
2 Tim 3:7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. describes todays people. Much education, but they do not know Jesus or what he requires. Seems as though as obviousas the Bible speaks, the message goes right over the heads.
The only cure for Bible ignorance is prayer. Earnest heartfelt prayer......there should be a fearful looking for the events coming upon the earth.
2 Tim Chapter 3
1This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
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Seek First the Kingdom of God
So often our prayers are more about what we can get as opposed to what we should become. Think about your own prayers, or about the prayers that you hear others pray. No matter how legitimate the concerns are, what category do most of them fall under: What can I get, or what can I become? How do we understand this tendency in light of what Jesus says to us below?
“ ‘But seek first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things shall be added to you’ ” (Matt. 6:33, NKJV). What does Jesus mean when He tells us to seek “first” the kingdom of God? Why seek that first? See Matt. 16:26.
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Notice that righteousness, peace, and joy are the fruit of the Spirit. Therefore, we should seek first the fruit of the Spirit before anything else. In the end, we can have everything the world offers, but what does that mean if we don’t have righteousness, peace, and joy?
If someone were to ask, “But does this mean that Jesus isn’t inter- ested in my physical or financial well-being?” How would you answer in the light of Christ’s command to put the fruit of the Spirit before physical or material needs?
A concerned mother said, “Pastor, please pray for my boy. He is out of the faith, and he has lost his job. Pray that he will find work.” Was this concerned mother seeking first the kingdom of God and His righteousness for her son? Keeping in mind that the priority of the Christian life is not to get but to become, what should her request for her boy have been?
What are your main concerns as revealed not just by your prayers but by your life in general: getting what you want for yourself or becoming what God wants you to become? What does your answer tell you about your priorities?
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Ecc 12:13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.
14For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.
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Galatians 2:21 NIV
I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!"
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paulwhut wrote:"Paul,
There you go posting on the sabbath again!
The ten commandments were given to show us how corrupt we really are! No man can keep them! We need a savior, one who is perfect. We p;ace our trust in him, not our self."
Wait, C, what you say is true, of myself I can do nothing right. I ask God to help me read a rule, to drive down the road, to digest the meal I ate.
You are correct, I can not obey/keep those Ten Commandments!
But Jesus living within me can. Somewhere it says "I can do all things through Christ Jesus".
I have to make every effort, I have to ask Jesus to help me to be good. I have to ask Jesus to help me think good thoughts and to get rid of the bad thoughts.
Obeying God is showing my love and appreciation for him....
However he will not help me do something I do not wish to do, or that I do not ask hem to do.
I want to do good, to please God.
Jesus says, in John 14 "if you love me.........keep my commandments"..........and knowing Jesus, that he wrote those commandments, and that he had to die the death that I'm supposed to die (the second death),,,,,,,,
it behooves me to make every effort to obey him. He makes his request in those Ten Commandments.
That's my point paul!
We all need His help. There is not a commandment that each of us has not broken! However, you are breaking the commandment that you constantly harp on!
You are getting on the internet, reading your email, etc.... on the sabbath that you accuse everyone else of breaking!
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Good Morning AMERICA .......thread buddies!!!!
Hope this msg finds all of you well! Today is Monday...........the second day of the week!
You must understand that the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath, the sabbath is a memorial of Gods' creation. It is a day set aside for the special fellowship with our Creator.
The Jewish people over time had attached much rules and restrictions to the sabbath day......they had made the sabbath observance a burden....a monster.
Jesus came to show us how to keep the sabbath holy, by doing good, ministering to others, worshiping him.
Tis true that "work" is involved in even breathing. Chest fills up with air, chest expells air........how much do you wish to do with this line of reasoning?
Come on. Let us be sensible. Satan will have us argue and pick at the Bible till be are frustrated and angry.
Pray about your attitude. How would God wish us to act......
March 22
Other Fruit of the Spirit
Galatians 5:22, 23 and Ephesians 5:9 are not the only texts that list the fruit that constitute the essence of Christian character. Many of the fruit are repeated in 1 Timothy 6:11, 2 Timothy 3:10, and 2 Peter 1:5–7, where qualities are added, such as godliness, virtue, and knowledge. It is interesting to note that 1 Corinthians 13:4–8 echoes the qualities of love and states many of them using the negative word not: “does not envy; . . . does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity” (NKJV).
It should be clear by now that there is not one official checklist when it comes to the fruit of the Spirit. There are many different aspects and nuances of Christian character. What the apostles do in each case is to list those that are especially applicable to their readers. What led Paul to the enumeration in Galatians was doubtless his pas- toral knowledge of the particular needs of the congregation to which he was writing.
The fruit of “godliness” is mentioned in 1 Timothy 6:11. In the original language, the word godliness means “reverence, respect, and piety toward God.” Romans 5:4, 5 mentions the quality of “hope.” What role does hope play in the Christian character? When all is said and done, our Christian faith offers us nothing if not hope.
Second Peter 1:5–7 is a list of qualities, among them “virtue,” which is not mentioned in the list in Galatians 5:22, 23. Virtue is associated with moral goodness as are modesty and purity. Why is this quality indispensable in the Christian life? How does this quality relate to the seventh commandment?
Second Peter 1:5, 6 adds “knowledge” to the list. Though the word that is used, gnosis, signifies general knowledge and understanding as fruit of the Spirit-filled life, what role would knowledge play? How would knowledge relate to, for instance, the gift of discernment?
Peter did not call his list in 2 Peter 1:5–7 the fruit of the Spirit, but essentially that’s what the qualities listed are, because they reveal what kind of people we should be as followers of Jesus.
How well are these characteristics manifested in your own life? If you are discouraged by what you see, what’s your one hope? What’s the only place you can flee to, and what can you find there?
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Jeremiah 6:
16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
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