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Jehovah's Witnesses believe death is a state of non-existence with no consciousness. There is no Hell of fiery torment; Hades and Sheol are understood to refer to the condition of death, termed the common grave. Jehovah's Witnesses consider the soul to be a life or a living body that can die. Witnesses believe that a limited "little flock" go to heaven, but that the hope for life after death for the majority of "other sheep" involves being resurrected by God to a cleansed earth after Armageddon. Watch Tower Society publications teach that humanity is in a sinful state, from which release is only possible by means of Jesus' shed blood as a payment, or atonement, for the sins of humankind.Witnesses believe there are two destinations for those saved by God. They interpret Revelation 14:1–5 to mean that the number of Christians going to heaven is limited to exactly 144,000, who will rule with Jesus as kings and priests over earth. The remainder hope to live forever in an earthly paradise. Jehovah's Witnesses teach that only they meet scriptural requirements for surviving Armageddon, but that God is the final judge.During the millennium, most other people who died since the time of Abel and before Armageddon will be resurrected with the prospect of living forever; they will be taught the proper way to worship God to prepare them for their final test before the end of the millennium.
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rockinga wrote:Jehovah's Witnesses believe death is a state of non-existence with no consciousness. There is no Hell of fiery torment; Hades and Sheol are understood to refer to the condition of death, termed the common grave. Jehovah's Witnesses consider the soul to be a life or a living body that can die. Witnesses believe that a limited "little flock" go to heaven, but that the hope for life after death for the majority of "other sheep" involves being resurrected by God to a cleansed earth after Armageddon. Watch Tower Society publications teach that humanity is in a sinful state, from which release is only possible by means of Jesus' shed blood as a payment, or atonement, for the sins of humankind.Witnesses believe there are two destinations for those saved by God. They interpret Revelation 14:1–5 to mean that the number of Christians going to heaven is limited to exactly 144,000, who will rule with Jesus as kings and priests over earth. The remainder hope to live forever in an earthly paradise. Jehovah's Witnesses teach that only they meet scriptural requirements for surviving Armageddon, but that God is the final judge.During the millennium, most other people who died since the time of Abel and before Armageddon will be resurrected with the prospect of living forever; they will be taught the proper way to worship God to prepare them for their final test before the end of the millennium. Absolutely correct, except for one error. Jehovah Witnesses do not interpret the Scriptures. The Scriptures explains itself. Christendom interprets scriptures to suit their opinions. That is why they are in confusion.
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New World Translation Errors (Link)
Jehovah's Witnesses have changed their Bible (New World Translation) to make it fit their doctrine.
John 1:1 is the most infamous translation error. Most of the scriptures that have been changed are
scriptures that refer to the deity of Christ, a scriptural fact Jehovah's Witnesses try to deny.
Link to: John 1:1 Article
John 14:14 and Word Omissions
The exact Greek word-for-word rendering in the Kingdom Interlinear Translation for this verse is:
"if ever anything YOU should ask me in the name of me this I shall do".
According to this Greek text, the Lord Jesus taught his disciples to pray to himself. In contrast to the Greek, the New World Translation inaccurately reads:
"If YOU ask anything in my name, I will do it".
Though it is clear that the Lord Jesus taught his disciples that they could pray to himself,
this truth is concealed in the New World Translation by omitting the word me.
John 8:58
The New World Translation incorrectly translates John 8:58:
Jesus said to them: "most truly I say to YOU, Before Abraham came into existence, I have been."
The Greek word-for-word rendering states I am instead of I have been.
Link to: The Bracket Game Article
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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Link to: List of Mistranslated Verses in the Christian Greek Scriptures (New Testament) of Jehovah’s Witnesses article.
There is an excellent video near the bottom of the page. Watch it if you can.
The video shows very clearly that the WatchTower REMOVED/REPLACED words in the original Greek.
Furthermore, a JW book written to people living in Greece are given a different explanation of John 1:1
than those in non-Greek speaking countries.
Hmm... I wonder why?
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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stevelundgren wrote:
New World Translation Errors (Link)
Jehovah's Witnesses have changed their Bible (New World Translation) to make it fit their doctrine.
John 1:1 is the most infamous translation error. Most of the scriptures that have been changed are
scriptures that refer to the deity of Christ, a scriptural fact Jehovah's Witnesses try to deny.
Link to: John 1:1 Article
John 14:14 and Word Omissions
The exact Greek word-for-word rendering in the Kingdom Interlinear Translation for this verse is:
"if ever anything YOU should ask me in the name of me this I shall do".
According to this Greek text, the Lord Jesus taught his disciples to pray to himself. In contrast to the Greek, the New World Translation inaccurately reads:
"If YOU ask anything in my name, I will do it".
Though it is clear that the Lord Jesus taught his disciples that they could pray to himself,
this truth is concealed in the New World Translation by omitting the word me.
John 8:58
The New World Translation incorrectly translates John 8:58:
Jesus said to them: "most truly I say to YOU, Before Abraham came into existence, I have been."
The Greek word-for-word rendering states I am instead of I have been.
Link to: The Bracket Game Article
Throughout John's account, Jesus emphasizes his relationship to be one of subjection in unquestioning obedience to the will of his Father. [4:34; 5:19,30; 7:16; 10:29, 30; 11:41, 42; 12:27, 49, 50; 14:10] His expression of this intimate relationship reaches its glorious climax in the moving prayer recorded in John chapter 17, where Jesus reports to his Father that he has finished the work He gave him to do in the earth and adds: "So now you, Father, glorify me along yourself with the glory that I had alongside you before the world was."--John 17:5. What of Jesus' relationship with his disciples? Jesus role as the sole channel through which God's blessings are extended to these and to all mankind is continually kept to the fore. [14:13, 14; 15:16; 16:23, 24] He is referred to as "the Lamb of God," "the bread of Life," "the light of the world," "the fine Shepherd," "the resurrection and the life," "the way and the truth and the life," and "the true vine." [1:29; 6:35; 8:12; 10:11; 11:25; 14:6; 15:1] It is under this illustration of "the true vine" that Jesus makes known the marvelous unity that exists not only between his true followers and himself but also with the Father. By bearing much fruit, they will glorify his Father. "Just as the Father has loved me and I have loved you, remain in my love," counsels Jesus.--15:9 Ask and pray do not have the same meaning. When asking of a person, is not praying to a person. You can do better than that, Steve.
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The expression at John 8:58 is quiet different than the one used at Exodus 3:14. Jesus did not use it as a name or title but as a means of explaining his prehuman existence. Hence, note how some other Bible versions render John 8:58: 1869: "From before Abraham was, I have been." The New Testament, by G.R. Noyes 1935: "I existed before Abraham was born!" The Bible--An American Translation, by J.M.P. Smith and E.J. Goodspeed. 1965: "Before Abraham was born, I was already the one that I am." Das Neue Testament, Jorg Zink 1981: "I was alive before Abraham was born!" The Simple English Bible. 1984: "Before Abraham came into existence, I have been." New World Translation Thus, the real thought of the Greek used here is that God's created "firstborn," Jesus, had existed long before Abraham was born.--Colossians 1:15; Proverbs 8:22, 23, 30; Revelation 3:14. Again, the context shows this to be the correct understanding. This time the Jews wanted to stone Jesus for claiming to "have seen Abraham" although, as he said, he was not yet 50 years old. [verse 57] Jesus' natural response was to tell the truth about his age. So he naturally told them that he was "alive before Abraham was born!"-- The Simple English Bible.
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The Simple English Bible -
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jnk309 wrote:... Ask and pray do not have the same meaning. When asking of a person, is not praying to a person. You can do better than that, Steve. There seems to be no limit to your deceptions.
Here you claim by inference that Jesus wasn't talking about praying to him?
John 14:12-14
I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing.
He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.
You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
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Notice the context here.
The chapter begins with Jesus telling his disciples he is leaving them.
Therefore, anything that follows (as in verse 14) is in that context.
John 14:1-4
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.
In my Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you.
I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
You know the way to the place where I am going.”
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Jesus says, his disciples "will do even greater things than these, because" He is "going to the Father."
"You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." - John 14:12-14 (posted above)
Therefore, anything asked of Jesus after he left would have to be done through prayer. Right?
Is that better, John?
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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stevelundgren wrote:jnk309 wrote:... Ask and pray do not have the same meaning. When asking of a person, is not praying to a person. You can do better than that, Steve. There seems to be no limit to your deceptions.
Here you claim by inference that Jesus wasn't talking about praying to him?
John 14:12-14
I tell you the truth, anyone who has faith in me will do what I have been doing.
He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
And I will do whatever you ask in my name, so that the Son may bring glory to the Father.
You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it.
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Notice the context here.
The chapter begins with Jesus telling his disciples he is leaving them.
Therefore, anything that follows (as in verse 14) is in that context.
John 14:1-4
“Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God; trust also in me.
In my Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you.
I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you,
I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.
You know the way to the place where I am going.”
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Jesus says, his disciples "will do even greater things than these, because" He is "going to the Father."
"You may ask me for anything in my name, and I will do it." - John 14:12-14 (posted above)
Therefore, anything asked of Jesus after he left would have to be done through prayer. Right?
Is that better, John?
Remember, much earlier, when you posted a model prayer and I congratulated you for it? You offered your prayer directly to Jehovah and ended it with Jesus as the channel to reach Jehovah? "O Hearer of prayer, even to you people of all flesh will come."--Psalms 65:2. JEHOVAH GOD is the "King of eternity," He is also the "Hearer of prayer," to whom "people of all flesh will come." [Revelation 15:3; Psalms 65;2] But how should they come to him? Earthly kings regulate such things as the dress and the manner of those allowed into their presence. Surely, then, we should expect the King Eternal to have requirements that must be met by anyone wishing to come before him with supplication and thanksgiving.--Philippians 4:6, 7. A new approach to God in prayer was instituted in the first century of our Common Era. It was through his Son, Jesus Christ, who had special love for mankind. In the prehuman existence,Jesus served joyfully as "a master worker," fond of things associated with mankind. [Proverbs 8:30, 31] As a man on earth, Jesus lovingly helped imperfect humans spiritually, cured the ailing, and even raised the dead. [Matthew 9:35-38; Luke 8:1-3; 49-56] Above all, Jesus gave his soul a ransom for many. [Matthew 20:28] How appropriate, then, that those availing themselves of the ransom should approach God through this one who loves mankind so much! This is now the only avenue of approach to the King Eternal, for Jesus himself said: "No one comes to the Father except through me" and, "if you ask the Father for anything he will give it to you in my name." [John 14:6; 16:23] Asking for things in Jesus' name means recognizing him as the way to approach the Hearer of prayer. Steve, I am sending you a bill for working me overtime, at the end of the month.
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jnk309 wrote:... Steve, I am sending you a bill for working me overtime, at the end of the month.
Just like the old days again.
I've got you on the ropes now.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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jnk309 wrote:Remember, much earlier, when you posted a model prayer and I congratulated you for it? You offered your prayer directly to Jehovah and ended it with Jesus as the channel to reach Jehovah? ... Channel?
Do you pray to Saints and "the Blessed Mother" as well?
Rosary beads anyone?
But seriously, what are you saying?
That we don't have direct access to God in prayer?
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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stevelundgren wrote:jnk309 wrote:Remember, much earlier, when you posted a model prayer and I congratulated you for it? You offered your prayer directly to Jehovah and ended it with Jesus as the channel to reach Jehovah? ... Channel?
Do you pray to Saints and "the Blessed Mother" as well?
Rosary beads anyone?
But seriously, what are you saying?
That we don't have direct access to God in prayer?
Jesus said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." [John 14:6] All who will gain life on earth must direct their prayers to Jehovah through Jesus. [John 14:13, 23, 24] Jesus also serves as a compassionate High Priest who is able to apply in their behalf the benefits of his sacrifice, allowing them to gain forgiveness and eventual salvation.--Acts 4:12; Hebrews 4:15.
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jnk309 wrote:stevelundgren wrote:jnk309 wrote:Remember, much earlier, when you posted a model prayer and I congratulated you for it? You offered your prayer directly to Jehovah and ended it with Jesus as the channel to reach Jehovah? ... Channel?
Do you pray to Saints and "the Blessed Mother" as well?
Rosary beads anyone?
But seriously, what are you saying?
That we don't have direct access to God in prayer?
Jesus said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." [John 14:6] All who will gain life on earth must direct their prayers to Jehovah through Jesus. [John 14:13, 23, 24] Jesus also serves as a compassionate High Priest who is able to apply in their behalf the benefits of his sacrifice, allowing them to gain forgiveness and eventual salvation. --Acts 4:12; Hebrews 4:15. Hmm...
"... allowing them to gain forgiveness and eventual salvation." - jnk309
How unfortunate.
No forgiveness or salvation now?
Wait... that's not right.
Colossians 2:13-14
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature,
God made you[b] alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code,
with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us;
he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
Titus 3:5
he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.
He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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stevelundgren wrote:jnk309 wrote:stevelundgren wrote:jnk309 wrote:Remember, much earlier, when you posted a model prayer and I congratulated you for it? You offered your prayer directly to Jehovah and ended it with Jesus as the channel to reach Jehovah? ... Channel?
Do you pray to Saints and "the Blessed Mother" as well?
Rosary beads anyone?
But seriously, what are you saying?
That we don't have direct access to God in prayer?
Jesus said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." [John 14:6] All who will gain life on earth must direct their prayers to Jehovah through Jesus. [John 14:13, 23, 24] Jesus also serves as a compassionate High Priest who is able to apply in their behalf the benefits of his sacrifice, allowing them to gain forgiveness and eventual salvation. --Acts 4:12; Hebrews 4:15. Hmm...
"... allowing them to gain forgiveness and eventual salvation." - jnk309
How unfortunate.
No forgiveness or salvation now?
Wait... that's not right.
Colossians 2:13-14
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature,
God made you[b] alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code,
with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us;
he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
Titus 3:5
he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.
He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,
What point are you bringing out here with your latest Scriptures? I have been pondering on this for days to answer you properly. You have me on the ropes here.
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jnk309 wrote:stevelundgren wrote:jnk309 wrote:stevelundgren wrote:jnk309 wrote:Remember, much earlier, when you posted a model prayer and I congratulated you for it? You offered your prayer directly to Jehovah and ended it with Jesus as the channel to reach Jehovah? ... Channel?
Do you pray to Saints and "the Blessed Mother" as well?
Rosary beads anyone?
But seriously, what are you saying?
That we don't have direct access to God in prayer? Jesus said: "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." [John 14:6] All who will gain life on earth must direct their prayers to Jehovah through Jesus. [John 14:13, 23, 24] Jesus also serves as a compassionate High Priest who is able to apply in their behalf the benefits of his sacrifice, allowing them to gain forgiveness and eventual salvation. --Acts 4:12; Hebrews 4:15. Hmm...
"... allowing them to gain forgiveness and eventual salvation." - jnk309
How unfortunate.
No forgiveness or salvation now?
Wait... that's not right.
Colossians 2:13-14
When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your sinful nature,
God made you[b] alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, having canceled the written code,
with its regulations, that was against us and that stood opposed to us;
he took it away, nailing it to the cross.
Titus 3:5
he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.
He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, What point are you bringing out here with your latest Scriptures? I have been pondering on this for days to answer you properly. You have me on the ropes here. Thanks for the question.
Hopefully my reply will bring you to your knees. (in the positive sense)
In reference to forgiveness and salvation, you look forward to a time in the future when this will happen;
I look back to a time in the past when this was completed.
Salvation and forgiveness are completely available now. Having been secured on the cross.
This is the good news of the gospel. Salvation as a present possession. See the scripture below.
The gift is freely available to you as well. Agree with God and receive your gift.
Kneel before God and ask him for it. Tell Him you want to understand it.
And if it is available now, you will gladly receive it.
I believe Jehovah will meet you there.
If you have never felt His presence before, you will in that moment.
Are brave enough to ask? What do you have to lose?
Look what you have to gain? Peace and assurance.
The burden of guilt is lifted immediately when we surrender to Him.
Don't you want to feel the embrace of Abba Father?
Even now He draws you. Can you feel the tug?
John 5:24
“I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life
and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.
Hebrews 2:3
how shall we escape if we ignore such a great salvation? This salvation,
which was first announced by the Lord, was confirmed to us by those who heard him.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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Steve wrote:In reference to forgiveness and salvation, you look forward to a time in the future when this will happen;
I look back to a time in the past when this was completed.
Salvation and forgiveness are completely available now. Having been secured on the cross.
This is the good news of the gospel. Salvation as a present possession. See the scripture below.
The gift is freely available to you as well. Agree with God and receive your gift.
Kneel before God and ask him for it. Tell Him you want to understand it.
And if it is available now, you will gladly receive it.
I believe Jehovah will meet you there.
If you have never felt His presence before, you will in that moment.
Are brave enough to ask? What do you have to lose?
Look what you have to gain? Peace and assurance.
Amen!
~ Insults Should Be Written In Sand ~ Compliments Should Be Carved In Stone ~
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Steve, in a loving and respectful way, you have twice used the name of the Author of the Bible, "Jehovah," on this forum. I commend you for that. Would it not be wise and reasonable to restore the Name in its proper place in the Scriptures? In the original manuscripts, the name "Jehovah" is mentioned 7,210 times. In the Hebrew Text, 6,973 times and the Christian Greek Scriptures, 237 times. The 1611 KJB, they removed the remaining four places with the New KJB. Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:18; Isaiah 12:2; 26:4. If they did that to your published book, would you not filed all kind of lawsuits and beyond a doubt put many in jail. You are aware now, of a letter to the Bishops' Conference on 'the name of God,' dated June 29, 2008, issued by the Congregation for Divine Worship and The Discipline of the Sacraments. In it the Roman Catholic advised that the Tetragrammaton in its various renderings should be replaced by "Lord." The Vatican instructed that God's personal name not to be used or pronounced in hymns and prayers during Catholic religious services. And the leaders of inside and outside of Christendom have also hidden the identity of the true God from millions upon millions of worshipers. You are a strong advocate of the Bible. What can you and I do, to challenge and conquer this awful damage they have enacted on the peoples rights? You friend, John
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jnk309 wrote:Steve, in a loving and respectful way, you have twice used the name of the Author of the Bible, "Jehovah," on this forum. I commend you for that. Would it not be wise and reasonable to restore the Name in its proper place in the Scriptures? In the original manuscripts, the name "Jehovah" is mentioned 7,210 times. In the Hebrew Text, 6,973 times and the Christian Greek Scriptures, 237 times. The 1611 KJB, they removed the remaining four places with the New KJB. Exodus 6:3; Psalms 83:18; Isaiah 12:2; 26:4. If they did that to your published book, would you not filed all kind of lawsuits and beyond a doubt put many in jail.
You are aware now, of a letter to the Bishops' Conference on 'the name of God,' dated June 29, 2008, issued by the Congregation for Divine Worship and The Discipline of the Sacraments. In it the Roman Catholic advised that the Tetragrammaton in its various renderings should be replaced by "Lord." The Vatican instructed that God's personal name not to be used or pronounced in hymns and prayers during Catholic religious services. And the leaders of inside and outside of Christendom have also hidden the identity of the true God from millions upon millions of worshipers.
You are a strong advocate of the Bible. What can you and I do, to challenge and conquer this awful damage they have enacted on the peoples rights? You friend, John You are quite a politician.
You have turned the focus of your sect into a human rights issue. BRAVO!
Whether the name Jehovah appears 7,210 times in the Bible, or not at all, is of no consequence to me.
I know God and he knows me. I call him Father, and that seems to suit him just fine.
So what's the point of your fight to reverse this "sinister evil"?
I am much more concerned that you have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ and have the assurance that you are securely saved and your sins are forgiven.
Now wouldn't that be something to rejoice about?
Based on this reply to my last post, I'm guessing you weren't brave enough to ask Jehovah about his gift for you.
Salvation and forgiveness of sin is yours to recieve NOW. Why wait?
The gift is freely available to you. Agree with God and receive your gift.
Kneel before God and ask him for it. Tell Him you want to understand it.
And if it is available now, you will gladly receive it.
I'll even write the prayer for you below. Prayer is just talking to God.
These aren't magic words. Make the words your own.
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Jehovah,
My friend Steve told me that your salvation and forgiveness of sin are available now.
He says I don't have to wait until the future to recieve these gifts from you.
Steve says I can have assurance of salvation. He says the burden of my sin can be removed now.
Even as I speak to you.
If what Steve is saying is true, please help me to understand it.
But more importantly, if what he says is true, I want to recieve it.
If it be according to your will, please grant these gifts unto me.
I pray this in Jesus name, Amen.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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I commend you again for the model prayer. We must direct our prayers to Jehovah. JEHOVAH IS THE HEARER OF PRAYERS. Psalms 65:2. You also ended the prayer with Jesus as the mediator. Acts 2:21: And everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved. He that has endured to the end is the one that will be saved. No such thing that I am saved. May Jehovah be with you, Steve.
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By the way Steve, Jehovah's witnesses are the true followers of Jesus Christ, who is our leader and the foremost Witness of Jehovah. We sanctify Jehovah's name to the extremity of the earth.
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