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Socialism in the United States Options
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#41 Posted : Saturday, March 12, 2016 2:57:42 AM
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It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



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#42 Posted : Sunday, March 13, 2016 11:21:37 PM
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It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

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#43 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 7:36:28 PM
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Bernie Sanders had the same information as Clinton prior to the invasion of Iraq. Sanders was right then and he is right now!


It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

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#44 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:04:09 PM
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Hindsight for most is foresight.
Bernie lives in the past. Going back is not progression. Live and learn and move on. WOULDA SHOULDA COULDA
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#45 Posted : Tuesday, March 15, 2016 11:49:00 PM
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When attempting to form an accurate picture of a man or woman and how that man or woman will act in the future, knowing their past is essential.





Bernie Sanders on the issues


Hillary Clinton on the issues
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#46 Posted : Monday, March 21, 2016 9:52:23 PM
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#47 Posted : Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:18:06 AM
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#48 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 2:27:27 AM
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It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



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#49 Posted : Wednesday, March 23, 2016 7:29:24 AM
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BURNY MUST BE A MORMON.Smile
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#50 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2016 4:40:37 PM
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It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

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#51 Posted : Friday, April 01, 2016 7:52:03 PM
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It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

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#52 Posted : Sunday, April 03, 2016 6:37:37 PM
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It really is dumbfounding. Those that know the least about Socialism in the United States are often those that scream the loudest against it! The most ignorant ones think the old USSR was an example of Democratic Socialism.... nothing could be further from the truth. I wish that when people look for the meaning of it that they would be objective rather than just turn to the source that supports their preconceived notions.


http://www.dsausa.org/what_is_democratic_socialism

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy so that ordinary Americans can participate in the many decisions that affect our lives.

Democracy and socialism go hand in hand. All over the world, wherever the idea of democracy has taken root, the vision of socialism has taken root as well—everywhere but in the United States. Because of this, many false ideas about socialism have developed in the US.



http://thehill.com/blogs...-by-democratic-socialism

Professor Frances Fox Piven, the honorary chairperson of the official Democratic Socialists of America coalition, says Sanders does not quite meet the definition of the term, preferring to call him a New Deal Democrat – a reference to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s ambitious set of social programs after the Great Depression and during the Second World War. Piven did admit, however, that “people mean a lot of different things by (democratic socialism).” Famed activist and linguist Noam Chomsky also has said Sanders is not a socialist of any sort, calling him “a decent, honest New Dealer.”

Splitting hairs over terminology might seem like an academic exercise with little or no value, and it largely is, but since Sanders calls himself a democratic socialist and many Americans do not fully understand what he means by that statement, it is worth investigating the term — and more importantly, figuring out what he means by it.

In 2006, Sanders himself defined what he meant by the term. He stated: “… I think it means the government has got to play a very important role in making sure that as a right of citizenship, all of our people have health care; that as a right, all of our kids, regardless of income, have quality child care, are able to go to college without going deeply into debt; that it means we do not allow large corporations and moneyed interests to destroy our environment; that we create a government in which it is not dominated by big money interest. I mean, to me, it means democracy, frankly.’’

All of that is pretty tame stuff compared to what many Americans might imagine when they hear the word socialism.
It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

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#53 Posted : Sunday, April 17, 2016 6:05:25 AM
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CLASSIC VIDEO: Milton Friedman Explains Why SOCIALISM IS FORCE

April 16, 2016 by Aleister —2 Comments

Milton Friedman Socialism
In the video below, the libertarian Nobel Prize winning economist Milton Friedman explains why Socialism is force.

It doesn’t matter if the Socialist has good intentions. It is always a form of force.

Here’s a partial transcript:


“Trying to do good with methods that involve force lead to bad results. Because the people who set out with good intentions are themselves corrupted. And if they’re not corrupted they are replaced with people with bad intentions who are more efficient at getting control of the use of force……The most harm of all is done when power is in the hands of people who are absolutely persuaded of the purity of their intentions.”

Watch the video:



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#54 Posted : Friday, May 20, 2016 5:58:21 PM
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It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



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#55 Posted : Sunday, May 22, 2016 11:16:27 AM
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Intangible wrote:
It really is dumbfounding. Those that know the least about Socialism in the United States are often those that scream the loudest against it! The most ignorant ones think the old USSR was an example of Democratic Socialism.... nothing could be further from the truth. I wish that when people look for the meaning of it that they would be objective rather than just turn to the source that supports their preconceived notions.


http://www.dsausa.org/what_is_democratic_socialism

Democratic socialists believe that both the economy and society should be run democratically—to meet public needs, not to make profits for a few. To achieve a more just society, many structures of our government and economy must be radically transformed through greater economic and social democracy so that ordinary Americans can participate in the many decisions that affect our lives.

Democracy and socialism go hand in hand. All over the world, wherever the idea of democracy has taken root, the vision of socialism has taken root as well—everywhere but in the United States. Because of this, many false ideas about socialism have developed in the US.



http://thehill.com/blogs...-by-democratic-socialism

Professor Frances Fox Piven, the honorary chairperson of the official Democratic Socialists of America coalition, says Sanders does not quite meet the definition of the term, preferring to call him a New Deal Democrat – a reference to President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s ambitious set of social programs after the Great Depression and during the Second World War. Piven did admit, however, that “people mean a lot of different things by (democratic socialism).” Famed activist and linguist Noam Chomsky also has said Sanders is not a socialist of any sort, calling him “a decent, honest New Dealer.”

Splitting hairs over terminology might seem like an academic exercise with little or no value, and it largely is, but since Sanders calls himself a democratic socialist and many Americans do not fully understand what he means by that statement, it is worth investigating the term — and more importantly, figuring out what he means by it.

In 2006, Sanders himself defined what he meant by the term. He stated: “… I think it means the government has got to play a very important role in making sure that as a right of citizenship, all of our people have health care; that as a right, all of our kids, regardless of income, have quality child care, are able to go to college without going deeply into debt; that it means we do not allow large corporations and moneyed interests to destroy our environment; that we create a government in which it is not dominated by big money interest. I mean, to me, it means democracy, frankly.’’

All of that is pretty tame stuff compared to what many Americans might imagine when they hear the word socialism.



Socialism is the big lie of the century.

https://fee.org/articles/why-socialism-failed/


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#56 Posted : Sunday, May 22, 2016 8:39:44 PM
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Capitalism Needs Socialism

Millions Now Understand That Capitalism Needs Socialism to Work—Which Is Why Bernie Is So Popular
Sanders' vision of democratic socialism is just capitalism with a safety net.


Sanders is not anti-capitalist, and the economic views he identifies with are not those of Fidel Castro, Che Guevara or Vladimir Lenin, but those of President Franklin Roosevelt and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Sanders has never called for traditional communism or Marxist-Leninism (which barely exists outside of North Korea or Cuba these days), but he is fiercely opposed to corporate welfare and banksters operating with impunity. And when he calls for breaking up the U.S.’ largest banks into a bunch of smaller banks, that is right out of President Roosevelt's playbook for saving capitalism from itself.

Capitalism needs a certain amount of socialism in order to function well: when Americans are broke and unemployed, they have less ability to make the purchases that keep companies in the black. And at the same time, a social safety net needs successful free enterprise and entrepreneurs to contribute to the tax base.
It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



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#57 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:04:41 AM
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Most rich American business owners never think about the fact that without socialist programs they would never be rich! They ignore the people they hire, those that actually labor to make money for the rich man. They ignore the infrastructure that has been built that allows them to move products such as highways, rail lines and airports. Without these things no one would be rich because their business would just be an idea, unable to function without a myriad of other people they look down upon and the taxes they lament to pay to maintain the infrastructure.


It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



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#58 Posted : Tuesday, May 24, 2016 9:32:41 AM
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Intangible wrote:
Most rich American business owners never think about the fact that without socialist programs they would never be rich! They ignore the people they hire, those that actually labor to make money for the rich man. They ignore the infrastructure that has been built that allows them to move products such as highways, rail lines and airports. Without these things no one would be rich because their business would just be an idea, unable to function without a myriad of other people they look down upon and the taxes they lament to pay to maintain the infrastructure.





And without those who come up with ideas like say Bill Gates the jobs wouldn't be there, no need of infrastructure, highways, rail lines and airports.


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#59 Posted : Thursday, August 04, 2016 6:49:29 PM
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It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



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#60 Posted : Sunday, September 04, 2016 1:14:47 AM
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It is inaccurate to say that I hate everything. I am strongly in favor of common sense, common honesty, and common decency. This makes me forever ineligible for public office.

H. L. Mencken



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