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Mr. Steve keeps trying to make a distinction between the Jewish Christians and the Gentile Christians.
When Stephen was stoned, the Gospel then went to all the world, Jew, Gentile alike, there was to be no more distinction between any persons. The 490 year period of probation for the Jews ended in AD 34.
Incidentally this period is part of the 2300 day prophecy mentioned in Daniel.
anyhoo..............
Salvation was by grace thru faith in the risen Christ Jesus. For all time.
and so guess what..........the Ten Commandments were to be equally interested in all persons as well, whomever, if they were to decide to follow the God of Abraham, the God of Creation, then the Ten Commandments were for them too!
Jeremiah 6:
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No so fast paulwhut.
There is no new testament distinction subdividing the law the way the SDA does. The law is one thing.
The only difference in the Bible is when it is a literary term referring to the books of the Law and the Prophets.
Romans 10:4 NIV
Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
Ephesians 2:14-16 NIV
For he himself is our peace, who has made the two one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, by abolishing in his flesh the law with its commandments and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new man out of the two, thus making peace, and in this one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility.
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uh oh,,,quick draw mcgraw is back in town.........whew......
uh les see,,,,,,common sense....where did it go.....uh ....my body, is it any different than the body of Moses, or Joseph, or uh,,,,,Daniel.....or any other human being?
Is it possible that the Creator when he told A&E to pupulate the earth, had in mind that there would be "different human bodies".......somewhere that would not require the same dietary restrictions.....?
hmmmmmmmm?
Don't you think that the Bible diet is a good diet? One that would stand up to all the rigors of life in there here ol world??????
and the Civil law, having to do with my driving off the road into YOUR CORNfield... I owe you damages....huh?...or was that just for the folks back there in Moses' day......
You do not like laws do you Mr. Steve? hmmmmmmmmmm
do you not know, that in the Holy City, from one sabbath to another all flesh will come to worship before the Lord?
guess you gonna kick on that too aren't you?
If you read your Bible closely you will find that Jesus loves you very much and wants you to prosper an be in good health, just like Daniel, Joseph, Moses, and all the rest of Gods' children.
Jeremiah 6:
16 Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein.
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stevelundgren wrote:Okay folks.
Seems to be a misunderstanding here.
1) YES, the last supper was a celebration of Passover.
2) NO, Gentile Christians are not expected to celebrate Passover.
3) NO, The Lord's Supper (communion) is not a celebration of Passover.
I hope that clears up a few points here.
Let me know if you have further questions for me. Thanks.
Yes, Christians do celebrate Passover. They call it Easter. If you look up Easter in the KJV it appears once. If you look in other versions it will be translated Passover. AC 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after EASTER to bring him forth to the people. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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paulwhut wrote:uh oh,,,quick draw mcgraw is back in town.........whew......
... Is it possible that the Creator when he told A&E to pupulate the earth, had in mind that there would be "different human bodies".......somewhere that would not require the same dietary restrictions.....?
hmmmmmmmm? .... What does the Law of Moses have to do with Adam and Eve?
You must think Exodus 20 is the center of the universe.
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paulwhut wrote:... Don't you think that the Bible diet is a good diet? One that would stand up to all the rigors of life in there here ol world?????? ... What is the Bible diet?
Oh I know, is this it?
Isaiah 25:6 NIV
On this mountain the LORD Almighty will prepare a feast of rich food for all peoples, a banquet of aged wine— the best of meats and the finest of wines.
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paulwhut wrote:... You do not like laws do you Mr. Steve? hmmmmmmmmmm .... I prefer grace.
If you want to be judged by the law, be my guest.
Can you even keep the first commandment for one whole day? (one hour?)
Did you ever answer my question about tithing? On the gross or on the net?
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TerryD wrote:stevelundgren wrote:Okay folks.
Seems to be a misunderstanding here.
1) YES, the last supper was a celebration of Passover.
2) NO, Gentile Christians are not expected to celebrate Passover.
3) NO, The Lord's Supper (communion) is not a celebration of Passover.
I hope that clears up a few points here.
Let me know if you have further questions for me. Thanks.
Yes, Christians do celebrate Passover. They call it Easter. If you look up Easter in the KJV it appears once. If you look in other versions it will be translated Passover. AC 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after EASTER to bring him forth to the people. That's not quite right Terry.
The "people" in Acts 12 were Jews not Christians. Sorry. Interesting though.
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Hi Steve, I just wanted to say hello b4 i went to bed.
How are you tonight.
Habn tc love you.
G'nite.
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stevelundgren wrote:TerryD wrote:stevelundgren wrote:Okay folks.
Seems to be a misunderstanding here.
1) YES, the last supper was a celebration of Passover.
2) NO, Gentile Christians are not expected to celebrate Passover.
3) NO, The Lord's Supper (communion) is not a celebration of Passover.
I hope that clears up a few points here.
Let me know if you have further questions for me. Thanks.
Yes, Christians do celebrate Passover. They call it Easter. If you look up Easter in the KJV it appears once. If you look in other versions it will be translated Passover. AC 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after EASTER to bring him forth to the people. That's not quite right Terry.
The "people" in Acts 12 were Jews not Christians. Sorry. Interesting though.
That's true, but do Christians celebrate Easter? From WikipediA Easter is linked to the Passover and Exodus from Egypt recorded in the Old Testament through the Last Supper and crucifixion that preceded the resurrection. According to the narratives of the New Testament, Jesus gave the Passover meal a new meaning, as he prepared himself and his disciples for his death in the upper room during the Last Supper. He identified the loaf of bread and cup of wine as symbolizing his body soon to be sacrificed and his blood soon to be shed. 1 Corinthians 5:7 states, "Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed"; this refers to the Passover requirement to have no yeast in the house and to the allegory of Jesus as the Paschal lamb.[11] "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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Good Morning thread buddies, may this post find all of you well!
Today is Friday, the preparation day, the sabbath is drawing on.....this has been a very good week!
The people in Acts 12 were Christians, all who follow Jesus are Christians, unless I have lost it all together.........
Isn't that right, if a man follows Christ, isn't he a Christian......?
huh?
Back to this "diet" thing..........Leviticus gives us the proper guidelines on what to eat.....now we may not like it but there it is.
I submit to you people that if you are overweight, have diabeties, heart trouble, etc, that you would do well to adopt the Bible diet.
Fruits, grains, vegetables, water, and watch the fat drop off and your health improve!
If you insist on eating meats, then make sure it has fins and scales and or is cloven at the hoof and chews the cud.
And drain out the blood before you cook it.
We are told to not eat the blood, for the "life" is in the blood.
and nowadays anyway, the animal growers pump so much into the animal in the way of growth hormones, steriods, antibodies, that when you eat the meat, you grow, and become immune to the antibodies...........
it is a lose lose situation all the way around.
of course, if you take away the condiments, all you got is a tasteless piece of flesh.
your veggies will give you much better protien and it is much easier digested too!
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Further Study: “It is not the length of time we labor but our will- ingness and fidelity in the work that makes it acceptable to God. In all our service a full surrender of self is demanded. The smallest duty done in sincerity and self-forgetfulness is more pleasing to God than the greatest work when marred with self-seeking. He looks to see how much of the spirit of Christ we cherish, and how much of the likeness of Christ our work reveals.
He regards more the love and faithful- ness with which we work than the amount we do.”—Ellen G. White, Christ’s Object Lessons, p. 402, emphasis supplied.
“The service rendered in sincerity of heart has great recompense. 1 ‘Thy Father which seeth in secret Himself shall reward thee openly.’ By the life we live through the grace of Christ, the character is formed. The original loveliness begins to be restored to the soul. The attributes of the character of Christ are imparted, and the image of the Divine begins to shine forth. The faces of men and women who walk and work with God express the peace of heaven. They are sur- 2 rounded with the atmosphere of heaven. For these souls the kingdom of God has begun. They have Christ’s joy, the joy of being a blessing to humanity. They have the honor of being accepted for the Master’s use; they are trusted to do His work in His name.”—Ellen G. White,
The Adventist Home, p. 535. Discussion Questions:
l Is there any sense at all in which truth could be relative; that is, it may not apply all the time to every situation? If not, why not? Are there certain truths, perhaps, that could be relative while others aren’t?
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My partner and I arrived in Kajo Keji, a small town in southern Sudan, to plant a church. We knew no one and had no place to stay, so we prayed for God’s leading.
We found a Protestant pastor’s home, and he invited us to stay with him that night. The next day was Sabbath, and we spent time explaining to the pastor who we were and what we believe. He invited us to preach in his church the next day, which is a custom in our region. We gladly accepted.
We chose to speak on the Second Coming, for we knew the people would rejoice to be reminded that Jesus is coming again. After church many of the members stopped by the pastor’s house where we were staying to visit with us. The next morning we thanked the pastor for his hospitality and went in search of a hut in which to live.
We met a woman in town who said that she had been at church on Sunday. When we told her that we were looking for a place to stay, she suggested that her husband had several huts he wasn’t using and was will- ing to introduce us to him. Her husband agreed to give us a hut at no cost because we were pastors. We thanked the couple and moved in.
That evening the woman gathered her neighbors at the hut to worship with us. For three days we worshiped with these neighbors in the morn- ing and again in the evening. But the woman’s husband lost interest and stopped coming.
The next evening as I sat in the hut, I heard feet running on the dirt path. Suddenly our landlord burst into the hut with a gun. “Why are you making my hut a place for worship?” he demanded.
Before I could answer the man, his wife, who had heard the shout- ing, ran to my hut. Then a soldier entered and pointed his gun at me. He thought I was robbing the man, and he tried to stab me. The landlord’s wife cried out, and the soldier realized his mistake.
The landlord ordered us to leave his compound and threw our things outside. We picked up our things and wondered where to go. It was ten o’clock at night, and we had no place to go. Soldiers had imposed a cur- few, and it was dangerous to be out. We didn’t know what to do.
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looka here in the KJ
Levitius
Chapter 11
1And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.
3Whatsoever parteth the hoof, and is clovenfooted, and cheweth the cud, among the beasts, that shall ye eat.
4Nevertheless these shall ye not eat of them that chew the cud, or of them that divide the hoof: as the camel, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
5And the coney, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
6And the hare, because he cheweth the cud, but divideth not the hoof; he is unclean unto you.
7And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
8Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.
9These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.
13And these are they which ye shall have in abomination among the fowls; they shall not be eaten, they are an abomination: the eagle, and the ossifrage, and the ospray,
14And the vulture, and the kite after his kind;
15Every raven after his kind;
16And the owl, and the night hawk, and the cuckow, and the hawk after his kind,
17And the little owl, and the cormorant, and the great owl,
18And the swan, and the pelican, and the gier eagle,
19And the stork, the heron after her kind, and the lapwing, and the bat.
20All fowls that creep, going upon all four, shall be an abomination unto you.
21Yet these may ye eat of every flying creeping thing that goeth upon all four, which have legs above their feet, to leap withal upon the earth;
22Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind.
23But all other flying creeping things, which have four feet, shall be an abomination unto you.
24And for these ye shall be unclean: whosoever toucheth the carcase of them shall be unclean until the even.
25And whosoever beareth ought of the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even.
26The carcases of every beast which divideth the hoof, and is not clovenfooted, nor cheweth the cud, are unclean unto you: every one that toucheth them shall be unclean.
27And whatsoever goeth upon his paws, among all manner of beasts that go on all four, those are unclean unto you: whoso toucheth their carcase shall be unclean until the even.
28And he that beareth the carcase of them shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: they are unclean unto you.
29These also shall be unclean unto you among the creeping things that creep upon the earth; the weasel, and the mouse, and the tortoise after his kind,
30And the ferret, and the chameleon, and the lizard, and the snail, and the mole.
31These are unclean to you among all that creep: whosoever doth touch them, when they be dead, shall be unclean until the even.
32And upon whatsoever any of them, when they are dead, doth fall, it shall be unclean; whether it be any vessel of wood, or raiment, or skin, or sack, whatsoever vessel it be, wherein any work is done, it must be put into water, and it shall be unclean until the even; so it shall be cleansed.
33And every earthen vessel, whereinto any of them falleth, whatsoever is in it shall be unclean; and ye shall break it.
34Of all meat which may be eaten, that on which such water cometh shall be unclean: and all drink that may be drunk in every such vessel shall be unclean.
35And every thing whereupon any part of their carcase falleth shall be unclean; whether it be oven, or ranges for pots, they shall be broken down: for they are unclean, and shall be unclean unto you.
36Nevertheless a fountain or pit, wherein there is plenty of water, shall be clean: but that which toucheth their carcase shall be unclean.
37And if any part of their carcase fall upon any sowing seed which is to be sown, it shall be clean.
38But if any water be put upon the seed, and any part of their carcase fall thereon, it shall be unclean unto you.
39And if any beast, of which ye may eat, die; he that toucheth the carcase thereof shall be unclean until the even.
40And he that eateth of the carcase of it shall wash his clothes, and be unclean until the even: he also that beareth the carcase of it shall wash his
clothes, and be unclean until the even.
41And every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth shall be an abomination; it shall not be eaten.
42Whatsoever goeth upon the belly, and whatsoever goeth upon all four, or whatsoever hath more feet among all creeping things that creep upon the earth, them ye shall not eat; for they are an abomination.
43Ye shall not make yourselves abominable with any creeping thing that creepeth, neither shall ye make yourselves unclean with them, that ye should be defiled thereby.
44For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy: neither shall ye defile yourselves with any manner of creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
45For I am the LORD that bringeth you up out of the land of Egypt, to be your God: ye shall therefore be holy, for I am holy.
46This is the law of the beasts, and of the fowl, and of every living creature that moveth in the waters, and of every creature that creepeth upon the earth:
47To make a difference between the unclean and the clean, and between the beast that may be eaten and the beast that may not be eaten.
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sak1 wrote:Hi Steve, I just wanted to say hello b4 i went to bed.
How are you tonight.
Habn tc love you.
G'nite. I'm good Susan. I trust you are well?
I'm having a very busy week.
On worship teams twice this week.
We lead worship at a Christian High School yesterday morning.
Last night we were rehearsing for Sunday AM. Busy, busy.
But I can't complain. We're living the life most only dream about. lol
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TerryD wrote:That's true, but do Christians celebrate Easter?
From WikipediA
Easter is linked to the Passover and Exodus from Egypt recorded in the Old Testament through the Last Supper and crucifixion that preceded the resurrection. According to the narratives of the New Testament, Jesus gave the Passover meal a new meaning, as he prepared himself and his disciples for his death in the upper room during the Last Supper. He identified the loaf of bread and cup of wine as symbolizing his body soon to be sacrificed and his blood soon to be shed. 1 Corinthians 5:7 states, "Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed"; this refers to the Passover requirement to have no yeast in the house and to the allegory of Jesus as the Paschal lamb.[11] Yes, of course. Many Christians would say that they do celebrate Easter.
But none (or few) call it Passover. (I prefer to call it Resurrection Day.)
Granted there is a symbolic link, a VERY strong link. Thanks for reminding us. In this you are correct.
And there is also a calendar link.
We position Easter Sunday on our calendar based on when the Jews celebrate Passover.
This also tells us when Good Friday is.
But the fact remains that Easter is a celebration of the Resurrection, not a celebration of Passover.
I've never heard any mention of the Exodus as part of any Easter services.
And nothing is mentioned (that I am aware of) in the traditional worship music for Easter either.
So, while I agree with much of what you are saying, if you are trying to make the point that Christians are celebrating Passover, you haven't convinced me yet.
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paulwhut wrote:
looka here in the KJ
Levitius
Chapter 11
1 And the LORD spake unto Moses and to Aaron, saying unto them,
2 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, These are the beasts which ye shall eat among all the beasts that are on the earth.....
Just like the Ten Commandments, we are told right up front who this message is for, the children of Israel. The time frame and location are worth noting as well. They were camped out in the wilderness. So let's keep all this in context, shall we?
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paulwhut wrote:
looka here in the KJ
Levitius
Chapter 11
... 22Even these of them ye may eat; the locust after his kind, and the bald locust after his kind, and the beetle after his kind, and the grasshopper after his kind....
Paulwhut,
Are you remembering to eat grasshoppers and beetles as part of what you call God's Diet Plan?
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stevelundgren wrote:TerryD wrote:That's true, but do Christians celebrate Easter?
From WikipediA
Easter is linked to the Passover and Exodus from Egypt recorded in the Old Testament through the Last Supper and crucifixion that preceded the resurrection. According to the narratives of the New Testament, Jesus gave the Passover meal a new meaning, as he prepared himself and his disciples for his death in the upper room during the Last Supper. He identified the loaf of bread and cup of wine as symbolizing his body soon to be sacrificed and his blood soon to be shed. 1 Corinthians 5:7 states, "Get rid of the old yeast that you may be a new batch without yeast—as you really are. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed"; this refers to the Passover requirement to have no yeast in the house and to the allegory of Jesus as the Paschal lamb.[11] Yes, of course. Many Christians would say that they do celebrate Easter.
But none (or few) call it Passover. (I prefer to call it Resurrection Day.)
Granted there is a symbolic link, a VERY strong link. Thanks for reminding us. In this you are correct.
And there is also a calendar link.
We position Easter Sunday on our calendar based on when the Jews celebrate Passover.
This also tells us when Good Friday is.
But the fact remains that Easter is a celebration of the Resurrection, not a celebration of Passover.
I've never heard any mention of the Exodus as part of any Easter services.
And nothing is mentioned (that I am aware of) in the traditional worship music for Easter either.
So, while I agree with much of what you are saying, if you are trying to make the point that Christians are celebrating Passover, you haven't convinced me yet.
I'm saying that Jesus told his followers to celebrate Passover in remembrance of him. Somewhere along the way it became Easter and was changed to celebration of the Resurrection. That is not what Jesus wanted. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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hmmmmmmm I do not care for okra either......
oh well.........
ok if I eat what I choose among the list that is approved?
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Back to this "diet" thing..........Leviticus gives us the proper guidelines on what to eat.....now we may not like it but there it is. I submit to you people that if you are overweight, have diabeties, heart trouble, etc, that you would do well to adopt the Bible diet. Fruits, grains, vegetables, water, and watch the fat drop off and your health improve! If you insist on eating meats, then make sure it has fins and scales and or is cloven at the hoof and chews the cud. And drain out the blood before you cook it. We are told to not eat the blood, for the "life" is in the blood. and nowadays anyway, the animal growers pump so much into the animal in the way of growth hormones, steriods, antibodies, that when you eat the meat, you grow, and become immune to the antibodies........... it is a lose lose situation all the way around. of course, if you take away the condiments, all you got is a tasteless piece of flesh. your veggies will give you much better protien and it is much easier digested too! [/color][/b][/i][/size][/quote] Now days produce growers spray with poisons and herbicides. they plant genetically altered seeds. Our produce is not what God created anymore. You ntake just as big a chance eating veggies. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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TerryD wrote:I'm saying that Jesus told his followers to celebrate Passover in remembrance of him. Somewhere along the way it became Easter and was changed to celebration of the Resurrection. That is not what Jesus wanted. Jesus was pretty clear with his disciples about what he was asking them to do. And it was not to celebrate Passover. Consider these facts.
1) The Passover is in remembrance of the Exodus.
The Lord's Supper is in remembrance of the crucifixion.
2) The Passover is a jewish tradition.
The Lord's Supper is a Christian Tradition.
3) The Lord's Supper is rarely celebrated on Easter.
The Lord's Supper is celebrated often during the year.
Weekly in many churches, monthly in most, less often in some.
4) The symbolism in The Lord's Supper relates to the crucifixion, not to Passover.
The bread symbolizes HIS broken body. The blood symbolizes HIS shed blood.
5) The other symbolic elements of Passover are not found in The Lord's Supper.
There is something in the Passover that relates directly to The Lord's Supper that many overlook.
The sacrificial lamb was killed, but until the blood was applied the death threat was still in force.
The same is true of Christ. The sacrifice was made, but unless the blood is "applied" (through trust and belief), the death penalty still applies.
Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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