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Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
The quote I posted said nothing about salvation, yet You found a way to fit Your intolerant beliefs into it.
Your beliefs that You have a right to judge and condemn are not supported by Scripture.
We always knew where you are coming from. That’s no surprise and You can claim to agree all You want to. We all know why You attempted to prove the quote wrong.
I disagree. The quote you posted could easily apply towards the issue of Salvation. The word or term " salvation " or " christianity " doesn’t have to appear for it to be relevant to either, as all Truth is relevant to Christianity and all relevant Truthful statements eventually lead to Christ. There are only two " sides " Jwest, please don’t confuse others about which one you are on as you seem to have off and on lately. Secondly, judging statements and actions IS in fact supported by Scripture regardless of your own interpretation to the inverse. Several pages could be filled with Scripture dealing with the proper judging of others actions and statements alone.
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Quote: Originally posted by kihisho on 10 January 2010
Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
The quote I posted said nothing about salvation, yet You found a way to fit Your intolerant beliefs into it.
Your beliefs that You have a right to judge and condemn are not supported by Scripture.
We always knew where you are coming from. That’s no surprise and You can claim to agree all You want to. We all know why You attempted to prove the quote wrong.
I disagree. The quote you posted could easily apply towards the issue of Salvation. The word or term " salvation " or " christianity " doesn’t have to appear for it to be relevant to either, as all Truth is relevant to Christianity and all relevant Truthful statements eventually lead to Christ.
There are only two " sides " Jwest, please don’t confuse others about which one you are on as you seem to have off and on lately.
Secondly, judging statements and actions IS in fact supported by Scripture regardless of your own interpretation to the inverse. Several pages could be filled with Scripture dealing with the proper judging of others actions and statements alone.
You always do disagree. The quote had nothing to do with Salvation,church doctrine,Steve or Ki. I have already posted several verses about being tolerant. This was not one of them. You and Steve have proven one thing. I should have My head examined for thinking I could post something that might remain neutral. I doubt that i could post that s**t stinks without you disagreeing. The quote I posted had nothing to do with religion,until You and Steve made it that way. There are some things in life that have nothing to do with church doctrine. As far as I’m concerned there should be a law against church doctrine. Maybe then Christians will return to the Bible for inspiration. This thread needs to die a quick death.
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Sometimes you have to let go to hold on.
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Quote: Originally posted by mistero on 10 January 2010
Sometimes you have to let go to hold on.
Can I quote You on that? What doctrine does it belong to?
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OH. I see. Your promoting letting go.
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Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
Quote: Originally posted by kihisho on 10 January 2010
Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
The quote I posted said nothing about salvation, yet You found a way to fit Your intolerant beliefs into it.
Your beliefs that You have a right to judge and condemn are not supported by Scripture.
We always knew where you are coming from. That’s no surprise and You can claim to agree all You want to. We all know why You attempted to prove the quote wrong.
I disagree. The quote you posted could easily apply towards the issue of Salvation. The word or term " salvation " or " christianity " doesn’t have to appear for it to be relevant to either, as all Truth is relevant to Christianity and all relevant Truthful statements eventually lead to Christ.
There are only two " sides " Jwest, please don’t confuse others about which one you are on as you seem to have off and on lately.
Secondly, judging statements and actions IS in fact supported by Scripture regardless of your own interpretation to the inverse. Several pages could be filled with Scripture dealing with the proper judging of others actions and statements alone.
You always do disagree.
The quote had nothing to do with Salvation,church doctrine,Steve or Ki.
I have already posted several verses about being tolerant. This was not one of them.
You and Steve have proven one thing. I should have My head examined for thinking I could post something that might remain neutral.
I doubt that i could post that s**t stinks without you disagreeing.
The quote I posted had nothing to do with religion,until You and Steve made it that way.
There are some things in life that have nothing to do with church doctrine. As far as I’m concerned there should be a law against church doctrine. Maybe then Christians will return to the Bible for inspiration.
This thread needs to die a quick death.
Everything has to do with Religion in one way or another, you just have to LOOK carefully. I’m not talking about Doctrine, though that is an important subject of course. Unlike you I don’t " think " in terms of grey/gray...I think in terms of black and white...for EVERYTHING is black and white when you look closely enough...even this screen or a screen with the most brilliant colors is really black and white at the core when you look closely enough...and that is what I am supposed to do...look closely. I wasn’t trying to argue with you, I was simply saying that the quote in question COULD apply to Christianity, not that it did in your mind when you quoted it.
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Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
You always do disagree.
I don’t " always disagree " Jwest. I just do on important matters at times. I have no interest in cats, dogs, ( animals in general ), laundry clothes, eating preferences, etc...as these carry no " real life " importance beyond a surface matter in my opinion. But when one begins discussing Truth, yes, I may agree or disagree, as you often do yourself.
Cylon force inbound, all Vipers engage ! Weapons free...Fire, Fire, Fire ! - Battlestar Galactica
Today IS a good day to die ! - Commander Worf, Star Trek the Next Generation
I'm not anxious to die, i'm just anxious to make a difference - Character in Pearl Harbor, movie.
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Your right. Here’s one that is unmistakably religious. It has to do with church doctrine as well as a lot of Christians.I can’t deny that. Quote: I used to think anyone doing anything weird was weird.
Now I know that it is the people that call others weird that are weird.
Paul McCartney:
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Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
I should have My head examined for thinking I could post something that might remain neutral.
I doubt that i could post that s**t stinks without you disagreeing.
1) If it’s truly " neutral "...why discuss it or post it...why would something that is " neutral " ever matter to anyone ? I guess neutrality does appeal to some...I just don’t understand why. 2) Sh*t " stinking " ? Yes I suppose for most people that would be the conclusion. Personally I trained myself long ago to be rather immune ( to a good degree though not perfect ) to " smells " so I detect them, but they do not " bother me " for the most part like they do others. The exception would be strong chemical " smells " or the like I suppose, but they have to be overwhelming to usually affect me. Out here in the country, for example, it isn’t at all rare to encounter Skunk when someone has accidentlly hit one in a vehicle...but while others wrinkle thier noses and make remarks...I usually don’t care one way or another...it’s just an interesting odor. Fascinating subject though...thank you 
Cylon force inbound, all Vipers engage ! Weapons free...Fire, Fire, Fire ! - Battlestar Galactica
Today IS a good day to die ! - Commander Worf, Star Trek the Next Generation
I'm not anxious to die, i'm just anxious to make a difference - Character in Pearl Harbor, movie.
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Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
Your right.
Here’s one that is unmistakably religious. It has to do with church doctrine as well as a lot of Christians.I can’t deny that.
Quote: I used to think anyone doing anything weird was weird.
Now I know that it is the people that call others weird that are weird.
Paul McCartney:
Interesting quote. It in fact could have religious signifigance if you wanted to honestly discuss it. It’s up to you.
Cylon force inbound, all Vipers engage ! Weapons free...Fire, Fire, Fire ! - Battlestar Galactica
Today IS a good day to die ! - Commander Worf, Star Trek the Next Generation
I'm not anxious to die, i'm just anxious to make a difference - Character in Pearl Harbor, movie.
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Quote: Originally posted by kihisho on 10 January 2010
Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
You always do disagree.
I don’t " always disagree " Jwest.
I just do on important matters at times. I have no interest in cats, dogs, ( animals in general ), laundry clothes, eating preferences, etc...as these carry no " real life " importance beyond a surface matter in my opinion.
But when one begins discussing Truth, yes, I may agree or disagree, as you often do yourself.
The quote said nothing about truth,salvation or God either.Your response was indicative of knowing more about why I posted it than I do.You didn’t even bother to respond until I got onto Steve for turning it into a religious discussion. If You want to make the quote about God and church doctrine, repost it and leave a comment about. leave My quote alone. It was not about religion or church doctrine. Not everything is about church doctrine. Some things are simply for the pleasure of reading.I had not intention of turning it into a religious discussion, much less a religious argument.
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I will try to start this thread again and I ask of you to please keep the chatter down.
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OK
I’ll remember not to post anything inspirational.
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Quote: Originally posted by kihisho on 10 January 2010
Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
I should have My head examined for thinking I could post something that might remain neutral.
I doubt that i could post that s**t stinks without you disagreeing.
1) If it’s truly " neutral "...why discuss it or post it...why would something that is " neutral " ever matter to anyone ? I guess neutrality does appeal to some...I just don’t understand why.
2) Sh*t " stinking " ? Yes I suppose for most people that would be the conclusion. Personally I trained myself long ago to be rather immune ( to a good degree though not perfect ) to " smells " so I detect them, but they do not " bother me " for the most part like they do others.
The exception would be strong chemical " smells " or the like I suppose, but they have to be overwhelming to usually affect me.
Out here in the country, for example, it isn’t at all rare to encounter Skunk when someone has accidentlly hit one in a vehicle...but while others wrinkle thier noses and make remarks...I usually don’t care one way or another...it’s just an interesting odor.
Fascinating subject though...thank you
Because I like posting inspirational things. It wasn’t for Your benefit. It was for mine.It was open for anyone who likes inspiration. It was not meant for those who don’t wants to be inspired.Inspiration does appeal to some, although you may not understand why. Inspiration comes in many forms.It can be neutral.It does not have to take sides and is usually better if it is neutral.
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From "Because I’m an Alcoholic:"
"I found that now I could do many things without a drink -- write, answer the telephone, eat out, go to parties, make love, get through the day and the evenings. Sleep at night and get up the next morning ready to begin another day. I was amazed and proud to have gone a week without a drink, then a month.
Then I lived an entire year sober, through my birthday, Christmas, problems, successes, the mixture that makes up life."
c. 2001, Alcoholics Anonymous, page 345
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AA Thought for the Day
(courtesy AAOnline.net)
Laughter
AA has filled my days with friends, laughter, growth,
and the feeling of worth that is rooted in constructive activity.
My faith in, and contact with, my Higher Power
shines more brightly than I dreamed it could. . .
I am free to laugh all my laughter,
free to trust and be trusted, free to both give and receive help.
I am free from shame and regret, free to grow and work.
I have left that lonely, frightening, painful express train through hell.
I have accepted the gift of a safer, happier journey through life.
c.2001 AAWS, Alcoholics Anonymous, p. 543
With permission, Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, Inc.
Thought to Ponder . . .
Take time to laugh -- it is the music of the soul.
AA-related ’Alconym’ . . .
H J F = Happy, Joyous, Free.
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Today’s Meditation:
God is your healer and your strength. You do not have to ask Him to come to you. He is always with you in spirit. At your moment of need He is there to help you. Could you know God’s love and His desire to help you, you would know that He needs no pleading for help. Your need is God’s opportunity. You must learn to rely on God’s strength whenever you need it. Whenever you feel inadequate to any situation, you should realize that the feeling of inadequacy is disloyalty to God. Just say to yourself: I know that God is with me and will help me to think and say and do the right thing.
Today’s Prayer:
I pray that I may never feel inadequate to any situation. I pray that I may be buoyed up by the feeling that God is with me.
Today’s Quotable:
The best and most beautiful things in the world cannot be seen or even touched. They must be felt with the heart. Helen Keller
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Today’s Tool:
Do something fun.
This is from the Big Book (and As Bill Sees It, p. 218):
"For most normal folks, drinking means release from care, boredom, and worry. It means joyous intimacy with friends and a feeling that life is good.
"But not so with us in those last days of heavy drinking. The old pleasures were gone. There was an insistent yearning to enjoy life as we once did and a heartbreaking delusion that some new miracle of control would enable us to do it. There was always one more attempt -- and one more failure." (p. 151)
"We are sure God would like to see us happy, joyous, and free. Hence, we cannot subscribe to the belief that this life necessarily has to be a vale of tears, though it once was just that for many of us. But it became clear that most of the time we had made our own misery." (p. 133)
I have this deep-seated idea that having fun takes points off my "Virtue scorecard". My experience has shown me, however, that I have more energy and am actually MORE capable of being of service to other people and the world in general when I am doing what I need to to take care of myself and ensure that for the most part I am finding life to be an overall POSITIVE experience.
Michele
Please post your storys and issues to the group.
We keep this thread open for the AA program.
Remember
everyone KEEP COMING BACK IT WORKS
stay
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Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
Quote: Originally posted by kihisho on 10 January 2010
Quote: Originally posted by candie on 10 January 2010
I should have My head examined for thinking I could post something that might remain neutral.
I doubt that i could post that s**t stinks without you disagreeing.
1) If it’s truly " neutral "...why discuss it or post it...why would something that is " neutral " ever matter to anyone ? I guess neutrality does appeal to some...I just don’t understand why.
2) Sh*t " stinking " ? Yes I suppose for most people that would be the conclusion. Personally I trained myself long ago to be rather immune ( to a good degree though not perfect ) to " smells " so I detect them, but they do not " bother me " for the most part like they do others.
The exception would be strong chemical " smells " or the like I suppose, but they have to be overwhelming to usually affect me.
Out here in the country, for example, it isn’t at all rare to encounter Skunk when someone has accidentlly hit one in a vehicle...but while others wrinkle thier noses and make remarks...I usually don’t care one way or another...it’s just an interesting odor.
Fascinating subject though...thank you
Because I like posting inspirational things. It wasn’t for Your benefit. It was for mine.It was open for anyone who likes inspiration. It was not meant for those who don’t wants to be inspired.Inspiration does appeal to some, although you may not understand why.
Inspiration comes in many forms.It can be neutral.It does not have to take sides and is usually better if it is neutral.
Ummmm...yeah...ok. I still maintain that almost nothing is actually neutral and anything that is neutral is irrelevant to that which matters in real life. Inspiration is by nature supposed to be " good " but it always depends on that which it " inspires " in others. If it inspires " good " it is good inspiration. If it inspires bad it is bad inspiration. If it is " neutral inspiration " it inspires nothing but neutrality, which is almost always a bad thing. But that’s me, black and white..you don’t understand " me " and I don’t seem to understand " you "...unfortunately for both of us.
Cylon force inbound, all Vipers engage ! Weapons free...Fire, Fire, Fire ! - Battlestar Galactica
Today IS a good day to die ! - Commander Worf, Star Trek the Next Generation
I'm not anxious to die, i'm just anxious to make a difference - Character in Pearl Harbor, movie.
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Quote: Originally posted by rockingA on 10 January 2010
I will try to start this thread again and I ask of you to please keep the chatter down.
Sorry, back to you Bruce.
Cylon force inbound, all Vipers engage ! Weapons free...Fire, Fire, Fire ! - Battlestar Galactica
Today IS a good day to die ! - Commander Worf, Star Trek the Next Generation
I'm not anxious to die, i'm just anxious to make a difference - Character in Pearl Harbor, movie.
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