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TerryD wrote:
I have no reason to assume that you OR Obama are not citizens of the USA . We are not the only Amaericans. I do question your's and Obama's loyalty to the Constitution of The USA.
Good for you! I have no reason to think you are a right wing sheeple, so lets just pretend everyone here can get along discussing the thread and not questions of personal loyalty or accussing one of being MORE American or MORE patriotic. Funny how I say something in support of Obama and my loyalty to the Constitution is in question?!
The topic is intended to be about the New World Order, not Obama's citizenship, not that Sarge might be wrong when quoting something, not who is smarter, richer or MORE correct. When threads have this stuff introduced the topic gets lost in the bickering.
Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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simpleman1776 wrote:THIS COMPLAINT IS CHICKEN FEED.
THERE'S MORE PRESSING MATTERS.
LIKE:
1. OBAMA;S 1ST ACTION IN OFFICE WAS TO ISSUE AN EX. ORDER SEALING ALL HIS RECORDS ( IF YOUR NOT GUILTY WHY HIDE ?)
What complaint?
If you think there are more pressing matters, then don't waste your time here. The point of fact is that I started this thread and it has nothing to do with your beliefs of Obama. Virtually every issue on your list has been proven to be false LONG ago, if you want to cling to the campaign mud slinging, half truth and lies... you are welcome to start a thread about this and we can cover the topic there.Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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Intangible wrote:sarge wrote:http://www.stop-obama.info/
Here we have information about our President. Everyone, click on the link and study up. Did you know the President has refused to put his hand over his heart during The Pledge of Allegiance and the National Anthem? Why? There's more I didn't know about until after he was elected. Seems the media has opted not to "tell the whole truth".
Sarge I am a bit disappointed that you choose to post such an extreme web site as a source of information about Obama.
I don't know of any time Obama "refused" to put his hand over his heart. There were a few times he was at a public event where he did not put his hand over his heart. I don't believe there was any intentional snubbing or disregard on his part. I don't typically place my hand on my heart for any purpose, not even to recite the Pledge or to sing the Star Spangled Banner... but that does not make me any less of an American and it shouldn't be a judge of my character or grounds to assume I, or Obama, are not loyal American citizens.
It is easy to get the flavor of the site by looking on the right side of the page with buttons for "Important links." The list of "Important links" includes Glen Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, the Tea Party Express and other less notable, but none the less far right people and organizations such as jewsagainstobama.org, exposeobama.com and Randy's Right.
Most of the links cover old "news" and distortions that have been debunked before the election. Previously I stated that "where to start" when discussing a NWO topic would be difficult to discern. I agree that some of the names listed on the right side of cover page are questionable but at the same time that doesn't mean that they do not have at least some valuable input, not everything they say should be easily dismissed. I thought the site was more "middle of the road" as compared to much of the information being published on-line. Also, it would be unfair to assume that because one may not agree with the way the President approaches the economy doesn't necessarily mean that person is conservative, a republican or an Obama hater. I don't believe there is such a thing as "fair" reporting or unbiased information on the web. On the cover page it does clearly state that the views and opinions are from Republicans and Democrats and imo they are. After more than 20 pages of reading and listening to videos I realized the site is sponsored and supported by the "Tea Party Express". I posted the link for a couple of reasons. I see no way of discussing a NWO without first taking a look into our own history. The question at hand in my thinking was how far back should we reach in history without clouding the main topic. I decided to pick-up with the current presidents history and present politics. Of course if you think this is the wrong timeline then I ask how would you approach the topic? The President has made some very questionable statements and actions and I disagree that most of the allegations have been debunked, just not true. The liberal "media" has deliberately shown this president in a false light when reporting our nations politics. I think the best way to understand where were going is to take a close look at where we've been and how we got where we are today. I vehemently oppose most all of the Presidents approach to "fixing" our economy. I think his policies are pushing us on a fast-track towards a NWO and my assessment of our current state of the union is actually shared by millions on both sides of the isle. We can NOT borrow our way out of debt. PERIOD! That's what the POTUS is attempting to do and China for example has invested/bought billions in our gold reserves and have bought up much of our debt. Is this not relevant? Everything the POTUS has done in his first year in office has been to borrow our way out and allow and push for the government to control problem programs. This clearly amounts to socialism (bigger government), and in my mind flies against the principles of the U.S. Constitution. Is this directly relevant to future events leading to a NWO, I believe so. It is a direct portrayal of where we stand in current events. I want to also say that finding information that is not too liberal or too conservative in regards to fact finding has been difficult to say the least and part of the reason I chose to post information from the Tea Party Express. No, I do not agree with everything they have published but I did find much of their allegations to be substantiated with proof thorough video clips and well documented reporting. This is your thread Greg, I will stand down for the time being and allow you to proceed with your thoughts in addressing this topic. The question still remains I think, how/where do we start? I will address my opinions concerning The President not putting his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance later when I deem it relative pending our progress.
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Intangible wrote:TerryD wrote:
I have no reason to assume that you OR Obama are not citizens of the USA . We are not the only Amaericans. I do question your's and Obama's loyalty to the Constitution of The USA.
Good for you! I have no reason to think you are a right wing sheeple, so lets just pretend everyone here can get along discussing the thread and not questions of personal loyalty or accussing one of being MORE American or MORE patriotic. Funny how I say something in support of Obama and my loyalty to the Constitution is in question?!
The topic is intended to be about the New World Order, not Obama's citizenship, not that Sarge might be wrong when quoting something, not who is smarter, richer or MORE correct. When threads have this stuff introduced the topic gets lost in the bickering.
Because Obama's loyalty to the Constitution is in question, anyone that supports him is in the same position. Obama's loyalty to the constitution has allot to do with the NWO and his citizenship is a Constitutional matter. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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I am a bit disappointed that you choose to post such an extreme web site as a source of information about Obama.
I don't know of any time Obama "refused" to put his hand over his heart. There were a few times he was at a public event where he did not put his hand over his heart. I don't believe there was any intentional snubbing or disregard on his part. I don't typically place my hand on my heart for any purpose, not even to recite the Pledge or to sing the Star Spangled Banner... but that does not make me any less of an American and it shouldn't be a judge of my character or grounds to assume I, or Obama, are not loyal American citizens.
It is easy to get the flavor of the site by looking on the right side of the page with buttons for "Important links." The list of "Important links" includes Glen Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, the Tea Party Express and other less notable, but none the less far right people and organizations such as jewsagainstobama.org, exposeobama.com and Randy's Right.
Most of the links cover old "news" and distortions that have been debunked before the election.[/quote] Previously I stated that "where to start" when discussing a NWO topic would be difficult to discern. I agree that some of the names listed on the right side of cover page are questionable but at the same time that doesn't mean that they do not have at least some valuable input, not everything they say should be easily dismissed. I thought the site was more "middle of the road" as compared to much of the information being published on-line. Also, it would be unfair to assume that because one may not agree with the way the President approaches the economy doesn't necessarily mean that person is conservative, a republican or an Obama hater. I don't believe there is such a thing as "fair" reporting or unbiased information on the web. On the cover page it does clearly state that the views and opinions are from Republicans and Democrats and imo they are. After more than 20 pages of reading and listening to videos I realized the site is sponsored and supported by the "Tea Party Express". I posted the link for a couple of reasons. I see no way of discussing a NWO without first taking a look into our own history. The question at hand in my thinking was how far back should we reach in history without clouding the main topic. I decided to pick-up with the current presidents history and present politics. Of course if you think this is the wrong timeline then I ask how would you approach the topic? The President has made some very questionable statements and actions and I disagree that most of the allegations have been debunked, just not true. The liberal "media" has deliberately shown this president in a false light when reporting our nations politics. I think the best way to understand where were going is to take a close look at where we've been and how we got where we are today. I vehemently oppose most all of the Presidents approach to "fixing" our economy. I think his policies are pushing us on a fast-track towards a NWO and my assessment of our current state of the union is actually shared by millions on both sides of the isle. We can NOT borrow our way out of debt. PERIOD! That's what the POTUS is attempting to do and China for example has invested/bought billions in our gold reserves and have bought up much of our debt. Is this not relevant? Everything the POTUS has done in his first year in office has been to borrow our way out and allow and push for the government to control problem programs. This clearly amounts to socialism (bigger government), and in my mind flies against the principles of the U.S. Constitution. Is this directly relevant to future events leading to a NWO, I believe so. It is a direct portrayal of where we stand in current events. I want to also say that finding information that is not too liberal or too conservative in regards to fact finding has been difficult to say the least and part of the reason I chose to post information from the Tea Party Express. No, I do not agree with everything they have published but I did find much of their allegations to be substantiated with proof thorough video clips and well documented reporting. This is your thread Greg, I will stand down for the time being and allow you to proceed with your thoughts in addressing this topic. The question still remains I think, how/where do we start? I will address my opinions concerning The President not putting his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance later when I deem it relative pending our progress.
Sarge[/quote] While grocery shopping yesterday I hear Rush say something like You can't take money out of the economy and then put if back and call it an increase. It's like going to the cupboard and taking out a jar of peanut butter and then putting it back and saying you icreased you peanut butter by one. Makes sense to me. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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When Obama took over the presidency, Bush handed him the keys to the Titanic. After eight years of allowing unbridled greed, our country's economy was sinking fast. China already owned us. With all the complaining, just what are your ideas to fix this mess?
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kathyw wrote:When Obama took over the presidency, Bush handed him the keys to the Titanic. After eight years of allowing unbridled greed, our country's economy was sinking fast. China already owned us. With all the complaining, just what are your ideas to fix this mess? I think a good first step would be to make it profitable to bring back jobs to this country. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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sarge wrote: Previously I stated that "where to start" when discussing a NWO topic would be difficult to discern. I agree that some of the names listed on the right side of cover page are questionable but at the same time that doesn't mean that they do not have at least some valuable input, not everything they say should be easily dismissed. I thought the site was more "middle of the road" as compared to much of the information being published on-line.
To be fair and to not be so self limiting, I think we would need to go back 100 years to see the much earlier years that allowed us to get to this point. Sure Obama is the hot topic no matter what your political stance lately, but the NWO goes well beyond the point that Obama stepped onto the scene.
When attempting to put all sources into context, we need to come to an understanding of just where the middle of the road meets the side of the road. I have never heard anyone refer to Limbaugh, Beck, or Hannity as being "middle of the road." Glen Beck is THE man of the hour at the Tea Party and was a major driving force to its beginning. To be honest, I do agree with Beck on some of the issues where I have heard him speak, but his views are typically viewed as being the right wing of the Republican party.[
Also, it would be unfair to assume that because one may not agree with the way the President approaches the economy doesn't necessarily mean that person is conservative, a republican or an Obama hater.
Of course, no one is defined by one aspect of their being, but there are views generally accepted as fitting into a category such as a Conservative, Republican, Liberal, Democrat or Libertarian. We must have some sort of accepted left, right and middle so we don't just spin our wheels and get no where.
I don't believe there is such a thing as "fair" reporting or unbiased information on the web. On the cover page it does clearly state that the views and opinions are from Republicans and Democrats and imo they are. After more than 20 pages of reading and listening to videos I realized the site is sponsored and supported by the "Tea Party Express".
It can be difficult to find information that is not biased by personal opinion, I don't think it is possible for man to be truly unbiased.
I do realize they state views and opinions are from Republicans and Democrats, I just didn't see any balance in what I read... and that is NOT all inclusive by any means, it is just what I observed. You know I cannot watch videos so I make no reference to that form of media. However, as I pointed out, we must come to an understanding on left, middle and right... the Tea Party is decidedly right leaning.
I posted the link for a couple of reasons. I see no way of discussing a NWO without first taking a look into our own history. The question at hand in my thinking was how far back should we reach in history without clouding the main topic. I decided to pick-up with the current presidents history and present politics. Of course if you think this is the wrong timeline then I ask how would you approach the topic?
To limit the scope of history to the past year overlooks most of what got us here. In order to discuss Obama and his policies, we must look back MUCH further to seek the early seeds of the NWO. Some of those seeds were planted before Obama's mother was even born.
The President has made some very questionable statements and actions and I disagree that most of the allegations have been debunked, just not true. The liberal "media" has deliberately shown this president in a false light when reporting our nations politics. I think the best way to understand where were going is to take a close look at where we've been and how we got where we are today. I vehemently oppose most all of the Presidents approach to "fixing" our economy. I think his policies are pushing us on a fast-track towards a NWO and my assessment of our current state of the union is actually shared by millions on both sides of the isle.
Everyone has a history and very often, it is something we would like to forget when it concerns OUR past. I am willing to give the benefit of doubt until I see it proven to be otherwise.
I generally oppose the bill passed soon after Obama took office, but I was just as much, if not more against the way Bush43 bill to bailout of banks. That is just throwing good money on bad, NO ONE is too big to fail and if they ARE that big, they should be allowed to fail. This nation went through the "Great Depression" and we pulled together and we grew stronger by having overcome adversity.
I want to also say that finding information that is not too liberal or too conservative in regards to fact finding has been difficult to say the least and part of the reason I chose to post information from the Tea Party Express. No, I do not agree with everything they have published but I did find much of their allegations to be substantiated with proof thorough video clips and well documented reporting. This is your thread Greg, I will stand down for the time being and allow you to proceed with your thoughts in addressing this topic. The question still remains I think, how/where do we start? I will address my opinions concerning The President not putting his hand over his heart during the Pledge of Allegiance later when I deem it relative pending our progress.
I know it can be difficult weeding out the bias in all forms of media, but please continue to post. It is good to get a wide spectrum of information as long as we put it into proper perspective. Even though I don't agree with much of what Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly claim, I do watch them fairly often depending on events. I don't hear Limbaugh all that much since we can't get many radio stations here.
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TerryD wrote: Because Obama's loyalty to the Constitution is in question, anyone that supports him is in the same position. Obama's loyalty to the constitution has allot to do with the NWO and his citizenship is a Constitutional matter.
That is your opinion and you are welcome to it, but this is not about who we support or our loyalty to this nation. The NWO is not ABOUT Obama... he is just ONE player as was Bush43, Clinton, Bush41, Reagan...... EVERY one of these men, and more, have had their role, their hand in the mix of the creation of a NWO.
I support those policies I see as being a benefit and I object to quite a few policies that I see as bad for The People... Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.
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kathyw wrote:When Obama took over the presidency, Bush handed him the keys to the Titanic. After eight years of allowing unbridled greed, our country's economy was sinking fast. China already owned us. With all the complaining, just what are your ideas to fix this mess? It seems to me that folks say that very thing about every previous administration.
Obama took the "keys to the Titanic" with full knowledge of what he was facing.
And knowing this, he promised us change.
Will he fulfill his promises, or blame it on the previous administration? Have I now become your enemy by telling you the truth? - Galatians 4:16
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All of your suggestions sound good to me. 100 yrs may in fact be a better approach in light of how we got in the mess were in. May I also suggest an "outline" be created so that we can move forward in a somewhat orderly fashion. I don't see it necessary to pick apart each and every President for the last 100 years either. My suggestion would be to stick to well documented facts and exactly what was happening during a certain timeline in regards to Religion, U.S. Government, (our governmental policies foreign and domestic) and more specifically how those policies came about and relate to the formation or equation that contributed to a NWO and Biblical Prophecy. I think some thought as to how to break this all down in time-lines would help in keeping order and confusion to a minimum. Perhaps, "by decade" or say "Presidential terms of Office" would be helpful. For example, and I mean JUST AN EXAMPLE! (I can hear the critic's now off in the distant...lol)
TOPIC; New World Order
1900-1910
A. Government Domestic: Insert Facts as they relate to a NWO. What policy and/or attitudes in government brought about "Change" as it relates to same and what was our motivation during that particular timeline. Finally, the results of our actions and how they affected our way of life.
B. Government Foreign: Insert Facts etc.....
C. Religion Domestic: Insert Facts etc.....
D. Religion Foreign: Insert Facts etc.....
E. Bible Prophecy: Insert Facts etc.....
Keep in mind the above is ONLY AN EXAMPLE (and not really a good one) but rather just one way to proceed with order while at the same time keeping on topic. Just some fashion of outline as a means to moderate the topic with order. It's way too easy imo to get "off track" for pages upon pages of irrelevant information and/or mudslinging and lose our direction.
Next, I definitely would agree that we need to come in agreement as to what is acceptable "sources of information" for our discussion. I will work on that too and make some suggestions. I can however say now that information pulled from "questionable sites" is alright with me as long as the information is applicable to the topic AND verifiable thorough more than just the site it originated, two additional verifications by acceptable sources would be best imo. This of course should only apply in cases where the input may be controversial.
Let me know your thoughts Greg. I'll check in later.
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When you say liberal press, I reject the term as untrue. General Electric owns NBC, which is often called the "most liberal" of the "liberal" press; there is nothing liberal about GE! Disney owns ABC; Time-Warner is the principal owner of CBS, with also holdings in CNN and others (like AOL). All of these giant financial empires are conservative to very conservative. Even PBS is, at most, middle-of-the-road stodgy. FoxNews is off the charts in its rightwing insistence, yet they doggedly call themselves "fair and balanced". There is very little of what I would call liberal press. There hasn't been a liberal in the Republican party since, oh, probably Robert M. LaFollette left it in 1924. The only liberals running for president as Democrats in 2008 were Mike Gravel and Dennis Kucinich, but when compared to conservatives like Louis XIV of France or Egypt's King Farouk, even John Birch Society members start to seem "moderate;" and by such standards, Obama and Biden and Clinton are wide-eyed liberals. But they aren't. Not really. Let me say this about socialism. Without socialism we would not have public streets and sewers, or armed forces, or public schools. Ancient Rome had private fire departments who were bitterly opposed to socialized fire departments. Why? Because when a building caught fire, the fire departments rushed to the scene and offered to buy the building at a bargain price--which they named, before they put out the fire. Only competition from a rival fire department would bring a better offer, but it was still a fire sale. I do not wish to lose sight of your thread, concerning a New World Order. I first heard the term in reference to Adolf Hitler, who simply called it the New Order. The next time I heard it was from the lips of George H. W. Bush, but I understand now that new world order was a term used as early as Alexander the Great. Possibly, Noah used the term as the flood receded. Moses wrote that God confused men's languages to prevent completion of the Towel of Babel. In the days after the Great World War, American isolationists warned that President Wilson was getting the country into "entangling alliances," and they succeeded in keeping the USA out of the League of Nations. The same voices gave similar warnings as the Second World War was ending, and for the next twenty years we saw their billboards and bumper stickers: "Get the US out of the UN and the UN out of the US." The first sentence of the US constitution declaims its purpose to "promote the general welfare." Which "principles of the US constitution" do you see being undermined? The primary purpose of the constitution was to give the federal government a cohesive means to tax and coordinate the various states--or else, we might still be operating under the Articles of Confederation. I recommend using www.snopes.com to document allegations you see on the internet. For gracious sake, the Tea Baggers behind "stop Obama" are the most hysterical, anti-social, unreliable political activists I have seen in my life.
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I guess if you are REALLY liberal. No one else seems liberal at all.
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TerryD wrote:kathyw wrote:When Obama took over the presidency, Bush handed him the keys to the Titanic. After eight years of allowing unbridled greed, our country's economy was sinking fast. China already owned us. With all the complaining, just what are your ideas to fix this mess? I think a good first step would be to make it profitable to bring back jobs to this country. And how would you propose we do this? Put an 80% tax on all businesses that use foreign employees? Those companies would just move their corporations to another country with better tax advantages. I am interested in how you think we can do this.
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stevelundgren wrote:kathyw wrote:When Obama took over the presidency, Bush handed him the keys to the Titanic. After eight years of allowing unbridled greed, our country's economy was sinking fast. China already owned us. With all the complaining, just what are your ideas to fix this mess? It seems to me that folks say that very thing about every previous administration.
Obama took the "keys to the Titanic" with full knowledge of what he was facing.
And knowing this, he promised us change.
Will he fulfill his promises, or blame it on the previous administration? We'll see, won't we?
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kathyw wrote:TerryD wrote:kathyw wrote:When Obama took over the presidency, Bush handed him the keys to the Titanic. After eight years of allowing unbridled greed, our country's economy was sinking fast. China already owned us. With all the complaining, just what are your ideas to fix this mess? I think a good first step would be to make it profitable to bring back jobs to this country. And how would you propose we do this? Put an 80% tax on all businesses that use foreign employees? Those companies would just move their corporations to another country with better tax advantages. I am interested in how you think we can do this. Give them better tax advantages here. Companies don't pay taxes. They just pass them on to consumers as hidden taxes. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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TerryD wrote:My understanding is that the devil is chained up in heaven. He is supposed to be released and come to earth posing as Jesus. King Jesus. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA .. AND YOU BELIEVE THAT ? I HEARD SHE'S IN JAMACIA ... GETTING A SUN BURN BEFORE THE PARTY.
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Intangible wrote:simpleman1776 wrote:THIS COMPLAINT IS CHICKEN FEED.
THERE'S MORE PRESSING MATTERS.
LIKE:
1. OBAMA;S 1ST ACTION IN OFFICE WAS TO ISSUE AN EX. ORDER SEALING ALL HIS RECORDS ( IF YOUR NOT GUILTY WHY HIDE ?)
What complaint?
If you think there are more pressing matters, then don't waste your time here. The point of fact is that I started this thread and it has nothing to do with your beliefs of Obama. Virtually every issue on your list has been proven to be false LONG ago, if you want to cling to the campaign mud slinging, half truth and lies... you are welcome to start a thread about this and we can cover the topic there. ALL MY LIES WERE PROVEN LONG AGO???, THEN WHY IS THE CASE WORKING IT'S WAY THROUGH FEDERAL COURTS.?? YOU ARE JUST STUPID. YOU CONVINCED YOURSELF IT WS ALL PROVEN, IN FACT HE HASNT PROVED ANYTHING, HE HASNT EVEN RESPONDED TO IT. YOU ARE IN JUST AS MUCH DENIAL AS HE IS. WE'RE ON TO YOU OBAMA AND WE'RE COMMING.. YOU CANT HIDE EVERY PAPER AND SILENCE EVERYONE IN THE WORLD WHO KNOWS THE TRUTH.
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simpleman1776 wrote:TerryD wrote:My understanding is that the devil is chained up in heaven. He is supposed to be released and come to earth posing as Jesus. King Jesus. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA .. AND YOU BELIEVE THAT ? I HEARD SHE'S IN JAMACIA ... GETTING A SUN BURN BEFORE THE PARTY. If your lucky you won't be around. I have a feeling you won't like the party. They'll be playing pin the mark on the jackass.
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simpleman1776 wrote:TerryD wrote:My understanding is that the devil is chained up in heaven. He is supposed to be released and come to earth posing as Jesus. King Jesus. HA HA HA HA HA HA HA .. AND YOU BELIEVE THAT ? I HEARD SHE'S IN JAMACIA ... GETTING A SUN BURN BEFORE THE PARTY. I'd say my version is more believable. "If a man loses pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music in which he hears, however measured, or far away.” Henry David Thoreau
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