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Intangible
#21 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 7:32:22 PM
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The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
stevelundgren
#22 Posted : Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:12:46 PM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 3/3/2008
Posts: 27,829

Who is paying for this?

In Sweden the taxes are very high.
Income taxes range from 50% to 75% and gasoline tax is 80%.

Why do they have to pay ANYTHING for healthcare?
How can they even afford housing and food?
No wonder everyone over there are riding bicycles.
No one can even afford a car.

But here is the leftist praising Sweden for "affordable" healthcare.
What a joke. Mad

Intangible wrote:

Those people are zealous to win you over,
but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us,
so that you may have zeal for them. - Galatians 4:17
Intangible
#23 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:12:00 AM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,653
Location: on a hill in the hollow
You certainly have a vivid imagination! I made NO comment whatsoever, so I certainly cannot be praising or saying anything about affordable. I pasted a post I found elsewhere without any comment. Caroline made the comment, it is her opinion, she is writing as a citizen.

Apparently, she does not find the system oppressive as you would suggest. She has no complaints about being over taxed or not being able to afford food, housing or transportation..... these are all hysterical, right-wingnut claims you parrot. These claims have no basis in reality.

Most Europeans are far more health conscious than Americans. Walking and bicycling, when possible, is a healthier and cheaper way to go. Auto ownership is far more expensive where a decent public transportation exists. There are some startling differences between this nation and European nations, their vehicles are different, even ideas of public urination are at odds with American values.



stevelundgren wrote:

Who is paying for this?

In Sweden the taxes are very high.
Income taxes range from 50% to 75% and gasoline tax is 80%.

Why do they have to pay ANYTHING for healthcare?
How can they even afford housing and food?
No wonder everyone over there are riding bicycles.
No one can even afford a car.

But here is the leftist praising Sweden for "affordable" healthcare.
What a joke. Mad

Intangible wrote:


The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
stevelundgren
#24 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:40:09 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 3/3/2008
Posts: 27,829

By posting that you were most certainly praising Sweden for
"affordable" healthcare. And praising socialism.

Caroline is probably a socialist brainwashed college student.
What would she know of the consequences?

Intangible wrote:
You certainly have a vivid imagination! I made NO comment whatsoever, so I certainly cannot be praising or saying anything about affordable. I pasted a post I found elsewhere without any comment. Caroline made the comment, it is her opinion, she is writing as a citizen.

Apparently, she does not find the system oppressive as you would suggest. She has no complaints about being over taxed or not being able to afford food, housing or transportation..... these are all hysterical, right-wingnut claims you parrot. These claims have no basis in reality.

Most Europeans are far more health conscious than Americans. Walking and bicycling, when possible, is a healthier and cheaper way to go. Auto ownership is far more expensive where a decent public transportation exists. There are some startling differences between this nation and European nations, their vehicles are different, even ideas of public urination are at odds with American values.



stevelundgren wrote:

Who is paying for this?

In Sweden the taxes are very high.
Income taxes range from 50% to 75% and gasoline tax is 80%.

Why do they have to pay ANYTHING for healthcare?
How can they even afford housing and food?
No wonder everyone over there are riding bicycles.
No one can even afford a car.

But here is the leftist praising Sweden for "affordable" healthcare.
What a joke. Mad

Intangible wrote:



Those people are zealous to win you over,
but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us,
so that you may have zeal for them. - Galatians 4:17
Intangible
#25 Posted : Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:57:10 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,653
Location: on a hill in the hollow
No, reposting someone's comments is not "praising". It is an opinion of another person posted without comment. I simply posted the view of a person that lives under this system that you seem to think is oppressive!

I am supportive of social programs, so I posted a comment by someone living with the situation. Personally, I would take the word of an educated citizen over the misguided opinion of a right wing non citizen. It is a certainty that she is far more knowledgeable about life in her country than you.

People don't need to be "brainwashed" into a political opinion, even if you don't agree with them. Caroline describes the system as
"socio-democratic".

You posted the UN human rights as something with which you can agree. "Article 25 Right to Adequate Living Standard" How does this get determined and accomplished?




stevelundgren wrote:

By posting that you were most certainly praising Sweden for
"affordable" healthcare. And praising socialism.

Caroline is probably a socialist brainwashed college student.
What would she know of the consequences?

Intangible wrote:
You certainly have a vivid imagination! I made NO comment whatsoever, so I certainly cannot be praising or saying anything about affordable. I pasted a post I found elsewhere without any comment. Caroline made the comment, it is her opinion, she is writing as a citizen.

Apparently, she does not find the system oppressive as you would suggest. She has no complaints about being over taxed or not being able to afford food, housing or transportation..... these are all hysterical, right-wingnut claims you parrot. These claims have no basis in reality.

Most Europeans are far more health conscious than Americans. Walking and bicycling, when possible, is a healthier and cheaper way to go. Auto ownership is far more expensive where a decent public transportation exists. There are some startling differences between this nation and European nations, their vehicles are different, even ideas of public urination are at odds with American values.



stevelundgren wrote:

Who is paying for this?

In Sweden the taxes are very high.
Income taxes range from 50% to 75% and gasoline tax is 80%.

Why do they have to pay ANYTHING for healthcare?
How can they even afford housing and food?
No wonder everyone over there are riding bicycles.
No one can even afford a car.

But here is the leftist praising Sweden for "affordable" healthcare.
What a joke. Mad

Intangible wrote:




The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
stevelundgren
#26 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2018 6:31:00 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 3/3/2008
Posts: 27,829

So, you are posting irresponsibly?
You "simply" posted the view of a person, while taking no responsibility for it?
Just a meaningless random post. No intentions to promote anything.
That's pretty lame.

Anyone that uses the term "socio-democratic" in a positive sense is indeed brainwashed.
Because "socio-democratic" is the gateway drug to Socialism and Communism.
And you are most certainly promoting it.

Intangible wrote:
No, reposting someone's comments is not "praising". It is an opinion of another person posted without comment. I simply posted the view of a person that lives under this system that you seem to think is oppressive!

I am supportive of social programs, so I posted a comment by someone living with the situation. Personally, I would take the word of an educated citizen over the misguided opinion of a right wing non citizen. It is a certainty that she is far more knowledgeable about life in her country than you.

People don't need to be "brainwashed" into a political opinion, even if you don't agree with them. Caroline describes the system as
"socio-democratic".

You posted the UN human rights as something with which you can agree. "Article 25 Right to Adequate Living Standard" How does this get determined and accomplished?




stevelundgren wrote:

By posting that you were most certainly praising Sweden for
"affordable" healthcare. And praising socialism.

Caroline is probably a socialist brainwashed college student.
What would she know of the consequences?

Intangible wrote:
You certainly have a vivid imagination! I made NO comment whatsoever, so I certainly cannot be praising or saying anything about affordable. I pasted a post I found elsewhere without any comment. Caroline made the comment, it is her opinion, she is writing as a citizen.

Apparently, she does not find the system oppressive as you would suggest. She has no complaints about being over taxed or not being able to afford food, housing or transportation..... these are all hysterical, right-wingnut claims you parrot. These claims have no basis in reality.

Most Europeans are far more health conscious than Americans. Walking and bicycling, when possible, is a healthier and cheaper way to go. Auto ownership is far more expensive where a decent public transportation exists. There are some startling differences between this nation and European nations, their vehicles are different, even ideas of public urination are at odds with American values.



stevelundgren wrote:

Who is paying for this?

In Sweden the taxes are very high.
Income taxes range from 50% to 75% and gasoline tax is 80%.

Why do they have to pay ANYTHING for healthcare?
How can they even afford housing and food?
No wonder everyone over there are riding bicycles.
No one can even afford a car.

But here is the leftist praising Sweden for "affordable" healthcare.
What a joke. Mad

Intangible wrote:





Those people are zealous to win you over,
but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us,
so that you may have zeal for them. - Galatians 4:17
Intangible
#27 Posted : Thursday, March 15, 2018 11:27:09 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,653
Location: on a hill in the hollow
Yes, I have presented the positive view of a person living in a "socio-democracy". It is a personal view of someone from Sweden where social healthcare is normal. Personally, I believe this nation has several successful social programs and I would support a program such as Medicare for all. I present it as a viable option that has it's pros and cons.

Your opinion on a "socio-democratic" belief certainly displays a brainwashed "conservative" view. You label "socio-democratic" a "gateway drug" to "socialism and communism", using another right wingnut term, clearly showing your extreme right wing bent.



stevelundgren wrote:

So, you are posting irresponsibly?
You "simply" posted the view of a person, while taking no responsibility for it?
Just a meaningless random post. No intentions to promote anything.
That's pretty lame.

Anyone that uses the term "socio-democratic" in a positive sense is indeed brainwashed.
Because "socio-democratic" is the gateway drug to Socialism and Communism.
And you are most certainly promoting it.

Intangible wrote:
No, reposting someone's comments is not "praising". It is an opinion of another person posted without comment. I simply posted the view of a person that lives under this system that you seem to think is oppressive!

I am supportive of social programs, so I posted a comment by someone living with the situation. Personally, I would take the word of an educated citizen over the misguided opinion of a right wing non citizen. It is a certainty that she is far more knowledgeable about life in her country than you.

People don't need to be "brainwashed" into a political opinion, even if you don't agree with them. Caroline describes the system as
"socio-democratic".

You posted the UN human rights as something with which you can agree. "Article 25 Right to Adequate Living Standard" How does this get determined and accomplished?




stevelundgren wrote:

By posting that you were most certainly praising Sweden for
"affordable" healthcare. And praising socialism.

Caroline is probably a socialist brainwashed college student.
What would she know of the consequences?

Intangible wrote:
You certainly have a vivid imagination! I made NO comment whatsoever, so I certainly cannot be praising or saying anything about affordable. I pasted a post I found elsewhere without any comment. Caroline made the comment, it is her opinion, she is writing as a citizen.

Apparently, she does not find the system oppressive as you would suggest. She has no complaints about being over taxed or not being able to afford food, housing or transportation..... these are all hysterical, right-wingnut claims you parrot. These claims have no basis in reality.

Most Europeans are far more health conscious than Americans. Walking and bicycling, when possible, is a healthier and cheaper way to go. Auto ownership is far more expensive where a decent public transportation exists. There are some startling differences between this nation and European nations, their vehicles are different, even ideas of public urination are at odds with American values.



stevelundgren wrote:

Who is paying for this?

In Sweden the taxes are very high.
Income taxes range from 50% to 75% and gasoline tax is 80%.

Why do they have to pay ANYTHING for healthcare?
How can they even afford housing and food?
No wonder everyone over there are riding bicycles.
No one can even afford a car.

But here is the leftist praising Sweden for "affordable" healthcare.
What a joke. Mad

Intangible wrote:






The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
stevelundgren
#28 Posted : Friday, March 16, 2018 5:39:12 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 3/3/2008
Posts: 27,829

Who's going to pay for it?
How will you pay for your national socialist healthcare system?

Have you ever had to deal with a government run service center in the city?
Imagine healthcare run like the big city DMV. What a nightmare.

Take a number. And then wait for blue 356 to be called.
I hope you have all day to wait.

Then ask yourself.
"Is this really worth a fifty percent income tax?"

If you think healthcare
is expensive now,
wait until it's free.


Intangible wrote:
Yes, I have presented the positive view of a person living in a "socio-democracy". It is a personal view of someone from Sweden where social healthcare is normal. Personally, I believe this nation has several successful social programs and I would support a program such as Medicare for all. I present it as a viable option that has it's pros and cons.

Your opinion on a "socio-democratic" belief certainly displays a brainwashed "conservative" view. You label "socio-democratic" a "gateway drug" to "socialism and communism", using another right wingnut term, clearly showing your extreme right wing bent.



stevelundgren wrote:

So, you are posting irresponsibly?
You "simply" posted the view of a person, while taking no responsibility for it?
Just a meaningless random post. No intentions to promote anything.
That's pretty lame.

Anyone that uses the term "socio-democratic" in a positive sense is indeed brainwashed.
Because "socio-democratic" is the gateway drug to Socialism and Communism.
And you are most certainly promoting it.

Intangible wrote:
No, reposting someone's comments is not "praising". It is an opinion of another person posted without comment. I simply posted the view of a person that lives under this system that you seem to think is oppressive!

I am supportive of social programs, so I posted a comment by someone living with the situation. Personally, I would take the word of an educated citizen over the misguided opinion of a right wing non citizen. It is a certainty that she is far more knowledgeable about life in her country than you.

People don't need to be "brainwashed" into a political opinion, even if you don't agree with them. Caroline describes the system as
"socio-democratic".

You posted the UN human rights as something with which you can agree. "Article 25 Right to Adequate Living Standard" How does this get determined and accomplished?




stevelundgren wrote:

By posting that you were most certainly praising Sweden for
"affordable" healthcare. And praising socialism.

Caroline is probably a socialist brainwashed college student.
What would she know of the consequences?

Intangible wrote:
You certainly have a vivid imagination! I made NO comment whatsoever, so I certainly cannot be praising or saying anything about affordable. I pasted a post I found elsewhere without any comment. Caroline made the comment, it is her opinion, she is writing as a citizen.

Apparently, she does not find the system oppressive as you would suggest. She has no complaints about being over taxed or not being able to afford food, housing or transportation..... these are all hysterical, right-wingnut claims you parrot. These claims have no basis in reality.

Most Europeans are far more health conscious than Americans. Walking and bicycling, when possible, is a healthier and cheaper way to go. Auto ownership is far more expensive where a decent public transportation exists. There are some startling differences between this nation and European nations, their vehicles are different, even ideas of public urination are at odds with American values.



stevelundgren wrote:

Who is paying for this?

In Sweden the taxes are very high.
Income taxes range from 50% to 75% and gasoline tax is 80%.

Why do they have to pay ANYTHING for healthcare?
How can they even afford housing and food?
No wonder everyone over there are riding bicycles.
No one can even afford a car.

But here is the leftist praising Sweden for "affordable" healthcare.
What a joke. Mad

Intangible wrote:







Those people are zealous to win you over,
but for no good. What they want is to alienate you from us,
so that you may have zeal for them. - Galatians 4:17
Intangible
#29 Posted : Saturday, March 17, 2018 8:27:34 PM
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Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,653
Location: on a hill in the hollow
Obviously, medical care is not free now and no one proposes "free" medical care in the future. The fact of the matter is, under the current system, all those not covered by insurance, as well as those that cannot pay their medical bills, are paid for out of our taxes, higher insurance rates and the actual cost of care. These day to day costs don't just disappear, they are paid for by all of us.

What a comparison, getting service at the DMV and medical care! I lived in New Jersey most of my life and going to the DMV was a nightmare. However, in the 1980's they cleaned up the operation and service improved dramatically. If the same thing could be done for medical care it would be a wonderful thing.

Truthfully, the Social Security and Medicare programs have been two of the most successful federal programs and they have been fully funded by worker and employer payroll deductions. I have worked with people that have depended on these programs and they work fairly well. Medicare for all would spread the costs across the entire population evenly. As it is, more than 50% of every tax dollar goes to fund the military. We spend more on the military than most nations put together.


stevelundgren wrote:

Who's going to pay for it?
How will you pay for your national socialist healthcare system?

Have you ever had to deal with a government run service center in the city?
Imagine healthcare run like the big city DMV. What a nightmare.

Take a number. And then wait for blue 356 to be called.
I hope you have all day to wait.

Then ask yourself.
"Is this really worth a fifty percent income tax?"

If you think healthcare
is expensive now,
wait until it's free.


The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#30 Posted : Sunday, March 18, 2018 8:22:16 PM
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Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,653
Location: on a hill in the hollow
According to Wikipedia, as of 2009, there were 58 nations with socialized medicine, only a handful are communist nations. Socialism, communism and democracy are just three forms of government. Unless you fully embrace Marxism, you can recognize the differences between socialism and communism. In Marxist theory, socialism is a transitional social state between the overthrow of capitalism and the realization of communism. Obviously, there are many nations with socialized medicine that have not evolved into communist states, so Marxist theory is not correct as is witnessed in the world.

There are pros and cons to any form of government, just as there are governments that seem to be a unique blend. In the United States we are a democratically controlled republic with some capitalistic and socialistic practices. Like the American language, this nation is a blend of races, peoples, societies and governance. We are the great experiment, a nation bound by laws that grows, changes and adapts to changes in history. It is past time for us to join the rest of the civilized world and make healthcare a basic human right and working toward some form of socialized medicine.



Conservative Think Tank

Conservative Think Tank: 10 Countries With Universal Health Care Have Freer Economies Than The U.S.

Avik Roy , Forbes Staff


Many American conservatives oppose universal health insurance because they see it as fundamentally antithetical to a free society. “If we persevere in our quixotic quest for a fetishized medical equality we will sacrifice personal freedom as its price,” wrote a guest editorialist in the ]Wall Street Journal in 2009. But according to the Heritage Foundation, a leading conservative think tank, ten nations freer than the United States have achieved universal health coverage. It turns out that the right kind of health reform could cover more Americans while increasing economic freedom.

Today, Heritage published its 2015 Index of Economic Freedom, an annual look at economic liberty around the world. The United States stayed put at #12, just below Ireland, Mauritius, and Denmark.

What’s striking about the list is that of the eleven countries ahead of the U.S. in economic freedom, ten have achieved universal coverage. Many Americans on both the right on the left subscribe to the myth that the U.S. has a free-market health care system. It doesn’t. U.S. government entities spend more per-capita on health care than all but two other countries in the world.

The two advanced economies with the most economically free health care systems—Switzerland and Singapore—have achieved universal health insurance while spending a fraction of what the U.S. spends. Switzerland’s public spending on health care is about half of America’s, and Singapore’s is about a fifth of ours. If we had either of those systems, we wouldn’t have a federal budget deficit.
The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#31 Posted : Friday, March 30, 2018 9:09:27 PM
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If you are poor, Republicans just want you to die! They don't seem to realize that all of the actual work put into making them rich is done by the poor. Eliminate the poor and they might have to learn how to work.

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#32 Posted : Monday, June 11, 2018 7:10:32 PM
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Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,653
Location: on a hill in the hollow
In the civilized world, healthcare is considered a basic human right!

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#33 Posted : Thursday, June 14, 2018 8:49:43 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,653
Location: on a hill in the hollow
The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#34 Posted : Sunday, June 17, 2018 7:21:03 PM
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Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,653
Location: on a hill in the hollow
Walmart is the largest employer in the United States and they receive 6 BILLION in welfare, but they are not the only billionaires running on corporate welfare, they are just the top company. We would not have a problem if these people would just pay their employees a living wage.

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#35 Posted : Monday, July 2, 2018 9:42:04 PM
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Republicans hate poor people even though it is the rich that keep them poor.

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#36 Posted : Tuesday, July 10, 2018 11:37:17 PM
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The people that work less than 6 months a year, getting paid vacations and sick days, with a lifetime guaranteed heath care program and full pay for life, all at the expense of the tax payers that can barely provide food for a family.

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#37 Posted : Sunday, September 16, 2018 11:21:39 PM
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Intangible wrote:
The people that work less than 6 months a year, getting paid vacations and sick days, with a lifetime guaranteed heath care program and full pay for life, all at the expense of the tax payers that can barely provide food for a family.


The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#38 Posted : Monday, October 22, 2018 4:28:00 PM
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The problem with a liar is they are not believable even if they should tell the truth!

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#39 Posted : Tuesday, October 30, 2018 11:28:56 PM
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When you go to vote next week, remember, Trump had a party on the lawn of the White House to celebrate taking healthcare coverage from millions. This was forced through by those Republicans that NOW claim they support healthcare and try to convince you the Democrats that gave you healthcare coverage now want to take it from you.

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
Intangible
#40 Posted : Saturday, November 17, 2018 5:17:22 PM
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If Trump was truly interested in making this nation great, he would have addressed this issue by now!

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
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