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#23861 Posted : Friday, October 9, 2020 5:21:05 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,657
Location: on a hill in the hollow
Paulwhut loves the KJV even though the translators removed God's Holy Name from more than SIX THOUSAND places. I guess that is to be expected, Paulwhut also loves the embodiment of evil that occupies the White House.


Colossians 2:16 Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. 17 These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however, is found in Christ. 18 Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you. Such a person also goes into great detail about what they have seen; they are puffed up with idle notions by their unspiritual mind. 19 They have lost connection with the head, from whom the whole body, supported and held together by its ligaments and sinews, grows as God causes it to grow.


paulwhut wrote:
here, I'll put it in your color:

Dearest murky you can ccc all you want!!!!!!!!
yep, you and the JWs' are in the same boat....for sure.

I love that good ol King James Bible!!!!!!!!''

The people who put that Book together were not of the sort you find today!!!!!!!

The educational institutions have been so fouled up by the Jesuits, and you would ccc the KJV.

shame on you!

And to think that the Lord knew the circulation and the influence of that Work.....would let it be so very faulty??????

yep you are murky alright........no substance....go away!.....TAKE YOUR DROPPINGS ON YOUR MANY THREADS!!!!!!

LEAVE MY TWO THREADS ALONE!

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
paulwhut
#23862 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2020 7:53:07 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 8,144
Yessir! I love President Donald J. Trump and his family!

Since he took office this country has been made GREAT AGAIN and i am looking forward to FOUR/EIGHT MORE YEARS OF PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!!!!!!!

AND A CONSERVITAVE SCOTUS AMEN AMEN AMEN

Yessir! I love the KJV of the Bible and have memorized some parts of it.

The KJV old english is the king of poetry....the language is beautiful AND

IMO the translation is the most favorable to Jesus Christ the Lord of all the earth\

and the heavens!

Dearest murky you can ccc all you want!!!!!!!!
yep, you and the JWs' are in the same boat....for sure.

I love that good ol King James Bible!!!!!!!!''

The people who put that Book together were not of the sort you find today!!!!!!!

The educational institutions have been so fouled up by the Jesuits, and you would ccc the KJV.

shame on you!

And to think that the Lord knew the circulation and the influence of that Work.....would let it be so very faulty??????

yep you are murky alright........no substance....go away!.....TAKE YOUR DROPPINGS ON YOUR MANY THREADS!!!!!!

LEAVE MY TWO THREADS ALONE!
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23863 Posted : Saturday, October 10, 2020 5:08:31 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,657
Location: on a hill in the hollow
Obviously Paulwhut thinks Trump, the anti Christ, made this nation great. In truth, Trump acquiesced our leadership of the world, Trump has taken this once great nation and turned us into the laughing stock of the entire world. Given the fact Paulwhut prefers a proven bad translation of the Holy Bible, of course he will choose to follow the anti Christ along with the rest of the world!

I pray the eyes of Paulwhut and those he has deceived to be opened to the Truth before it is too late.



paulwhut wrote:
Yessir! I love President Donald J. Trump and his family!

Since he took office this country has been made GREAT AGAIN and i am looking forward to FOUR/EIGHT MORE YEARS OF PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!!!!!!!

AND A CONSERVITAVE SCOTUS AMEN AMEN AMEN

Yessir! I love the KJV of the Bible and have memorized some parts of it.

The KJV old english is the king of poetry....the language is beautiful AND

IMO the translation is the most favorable to Jesus Christ the Lord of all the earth\

and the heavens!

Dearest murky you can ccc all you want!!!!!!!!
yep, you and the JWs' are in the same boat....for sure.

I love that good ol King James Bible!!!!!!!!''

The people who put that Book together were not of the sort you find today!!!!!!!

The educational institutions have been so fouled up by the Jesuits, and you would ccc the KJV.

shame on you!

And to think that the Lord knew the circulation and the influence of that Work.....would let it be so very faulty??????

yep you are murky alright........no substance....go away!.....TAKE YOUR DROPPINGS ON YOUR MANY THREADS!!!!!!

LEAVE MY TWO THREADS ALONE!

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
paulwhut
#23864 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 7:27:29 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 8,144

Yessir! I love President Donald J. Trump and his family!

Since he took office this country has been made GREAT AGAIN and i am looking forward to FOUR/EIGHT MORE YEARS OF PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!!!!!!!

AND A CONSERVITAVE SCOTUS AMEN AMEN AMEN

Yessir! I love the KJV of the Bible and have memorized some parts of it.

The KJV old english is the king of poetry....the language is beautiful AND

IMO the translation is the most favorable to Jesus Christ the Lord of all the earth\

and the heavens!

Dearest murky you can ccc all you want!!!!!!!!
yep, you and the JWs' are in the same boat....for sure.

I love that good ol King James Bible!!!!!!!!''

The people who put that Book together were not of the sort you find today!!!!!!!

The educational institutions have been so fouled up by the Jesuits, and you would ccc the KJV.

shame on you!

And to think that the Lord knew the circulation and the influence of that Work.....would let it be so very faulty??????

yep you are murky alright........no substance....go away!.....TAKE YOUR DROPPINGS ON YOUR MANY THREADS!!!!!!

LEAVE MY TWO THREADS ALONE!
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23865 Posted : Sunday, October 11, 2020 8:23:25 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,657
Location: on a hill in the hollow
Anyone can choose which translation of the Holy Bible they prefer, but the factual errors must be acknowledged. Being a work of men, no translation is perfect, for example, the King James Version cut out the Holy Name of God from more than SIX THOUSAND places. Every instance of God's Name has been removed from the KJV and most translations that followed!

WRIGHT WAY: A new King James Bible?
Posted Wednesday, September 2, 2015 12:00 pm

A new King James Bible has broken a centuries-old tradition and is following in the footsteps of several Bible translations that restored the Divine Name to its original place in the Old Testament.

The Divine Name King James Bible is raising eyebrows in the world of Bible translators for replacing the capitalized GOD and LORD with the English translation “Jehovah” in 6,972 places. In Hebrew the four letters representing the Divine name, also called the Tetragrammaton, is YHWH. To this day no one is certain of its exact pronunciation.

Translators of the Divine Name King James Version are following the pattern of other Bible translations, including Young’s Literal Translation, Darby Translation, The New World Translation, The American Standard Version and The Bible in Living English, in restoring the Divine Name where it was originally written.

Publishers of this latest King James Version wrote, “We specifically left the Authorized Version as it is except to restore the Divine Name. We hope then to make people pause and ask themselves if they want ANY modern English Bible that does not display God’s Divine Name as it is found in the original writings no matter how well translated it is.

The group also stated it is not affiliated with or sponsored by any religious organization and the new edition was not produced by the direction, assistance or approval of any religious organization or religious community.

Explaining their reason for restoring the Divine Name where it originally appeared, the publishers stated online, “Does it not seem clearer than ever why Jesus instructed us at Matthew 6:9 to pray ‘Hallowed be thy name’ not ‘hidden be thy name.’ Jesus faithfully showed why the name of Jehovah must be known to us, for only by that way would we know who Jesus is and how actually Jesus set the pattern for pure worship.



paulwhut wrote:

Yessir! I love President Donald J. Trump and his family!

Since he took office this country has been made GREAT AGAIN and i am looking forward to FOUR/EIGHT MORE YEARS OF PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!!!!!!!

AND A CONSERVITAVE SCOTUS AMEN AMEN AMEN

Yessir! I love the KJV of the Bible and have memorized some parts of it.

The KJV old english is the king of poetry....the language is beautiful AND

IMO the translation is the most favorable to Jesus Christ the Lord of all the earth\

and the heavens!

Dearest murky you can ccc all you want!!!!!!!!
yep, you and the JWs' are in the same boat....for sure.

I love that good ol King James Bible!!!!!!!!''

The people who put that Book together were not of the sort you find today!!!!!!!

The educational institutions have been so fouled up by the Jesuits, and you would ccc the KJV.

shame on you!

And to think that the Lord knew the circulation and the influence of that Work.....would let it be so very faulty??????

yep you are murky alright........no substance....go away!.....TAKE YOUR DROPPINGS ON YOUR MANY THREADS!!!!!!

LEAVE MY TWO THREADS ALONE!

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
paulwhut
#23866 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2020 7:10:39 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 8,144
Yessir! I love President Donald J. Trump and his family!

Since he took office this country has been made GREAT AGAIN and i am looking forward to FOUR/EIGHT MORE YEARS OF PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!!!!!!!

AND A CONSERVITAVE SCOTUS AMEN AMEN AMEN

Yessir! I love the KJV of the Bible and have memorized some parts of it.

The KJV old english is the king of poetry....the language is beautiful AND

IMO the translation is the most favorable to Jesus Christ the Lord of all the earth\

and the heavens!

Dearest murky you can ccc all you want!!!!!!!!
yep, you and the JWs' are in the same boat....for sure.

I love that good ol King James Bible!!!!!!!!''

The people who put that Book together were not of the sort you find today!!!!!!!

The educational institutions have been so fouled up by the Jesuits, and you would ccc the KJV.

shame on you!

And to think that the Lord knew the circulation and the influence of that Work.....would let it be so very faulty??????

yep you are murky alright........no substance....go away!.....TAKE YOUR DROPPINGS ON YOUR MANY THREADS!!!!!!
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23867 Posted : Monday, October 12, 2020 9:04:15 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,657
Location: on a hill in the hollow
The entire argument claiming Christians must keep the Sabbath was specifically as well as indirectly addressed 2,000 years ago. If you accept Jesus as your savior, you live under the New Covenant. If you are a Gentile convert, you are not required to adopt the Old Covenant. God accepted us just as we are as is explained in Acts 15...

Acts 15:1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Simon has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

16 “‘After this I will return
and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things’—
18 things known from long ago.

19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”


22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

The apostles and elders, your brothers,

To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

Greetings.

24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

Farewell.

30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.


36 Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, “Let us go back and visit the believers in all the towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing.” 37 Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, 38 but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. 39 They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, 40 but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord. 41 He went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
paulwhut
#23868 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2020 6:58:44 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 8,144
Yessir! I love President Donald J. Trump and his family!

Since he took office this country has been made GREAT AGAIN and i am looking forward to FOUR/EIGHT MORE YEARS OF PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP!!!!!!!!

AND A CONSERVITAVE SCOTUS AMEN AMEN AMEN

Yessir! I love the KJV of the Bible and have memorized some parts of it.

The KJV old english is the king of poetry....the language is beautiful AND

IMO the translation is the most favorable to Jesus Christ the Lord of all the earth\

and the heavens!

Dearest murky you can ccc all you want!!!!!!!!
yep, you and the JWs' are in the same boat....for sure.

I love that good ol King James Bible!!!!!!!!''

The people who put that Book together were not of the sort you find today!!!!!!!

The educational institutions have been so fouled up by the Jesuits, and you would ccc the KJV.

shame on you!

And to think that the Lord knew the circulation and the influence of that Work.....would let it be so very faulty??????


yep you are murky alright........no substance....go away!.....TAKE YOUR DROPPINGS ON YOUR MANY THREADS!!!!!!
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23869 Posted : Tuesday, October 13, 2020 4:11:55 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,657
Location: on a hill in the hollow
The more I quote the Holy Bible, the nastier he gets... he calls quotes of the Holy Bible "droppings". Sad and pathetic, he has no defense, he cannot use the Holy Bible to defend his doctrine!


paulwhut wrote:
yep you are murky alright........no substance....go away!.....TAKE YOUR DROPPINGS ON YOUR MANY THREADS!!!!!!



Intangible wrote:
The entire argument claiming Christians must keep the Sabbath was specifically as well as indirectly addressed 2,000 years ago. If you accept Jesus as your savior, you live under the New Covenant. If you are a Gentile convert, you are not required to adopt the Old Covenant. God accepted us just as we are as is explained in Acts 15...

Acts 15:1 Certain people came down from Judea to Antioch and were teaching the believers: “Unless you are circumcised, according to the custom taught by Moses, you cannot be saved.” 2 This brought Paul and Barnabas into sharp dispute and debate with them. So Paul and Barnabas were appointed, along with some other believers, to go up to Jerusalem to see the apostles and elders about this question. 3 The church sent them on their way, and as they traveled through Phoenicia and Samaria, they told how the Gentiles had been converted. This news made all the believers very glad. 4 When they came to Jerusalem, they were welcomed by the church and the apostles and elders, to whom they reported everything God had done through them.

5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.”

6 The apostles and elders met to consider this question. 7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them: “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe. 8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us. 9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith. 10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear? 11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”

12 The whole assembly became silent as they listened to Barnabas and Paul telling about the signs and wonders God had done among the Gentiles through them. 13 When they finished, James spoke up. “Brothers,” he said, “listen to me. 14 Simon has described to us how God first intervened to choose a people for his name from the Gentiles. 15 The words of the prophets are in agreement with this, as it is written:

16 “‘After this I will return
and rebuild David’s fallen tent.
Its ruins I will rebuild,
and I will restore it,
17 that the rest of mankind may seek the Lord,
even all the Gentiles who bear my name,
says the Lord, who does these things’—
18 things known from long ago.

19 “It is my judgment, therefore, that we should not make it difficult for the Gentiles who are turning to God. 20 Instead we should write to them, telling them to abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals and from blood. 21 For the law of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”


22 Then the apostles and elders, with the whole church, decided to choose some of their own men and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They chose Judas (called Barsabbas) and Silas, men who were leaders among the believers. 23 With them they sent the following letter:

The apostles and elders, your brothers,

To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia:

Greetings.

24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things.

Farewell.

30 So the men were sent off and went down to Antioch, where they gathered the church together and delivered the letter. 31 The people read it and were glad for its encouraging message. 32 Judas and Silas, who themselves were prophets, said much to encourage and strengthen the believers. 33 After spending some time there, they were sent off by the believers with the blessing of peace to return to those who had sent them. [34] 35 But Paul and Barnabas remained in Antioch, where they and many others taught and preached the word of the Lord.


36 Some time later Paul said to Barnabas, “Let us go back and visit the believers in all the towns where we preached the word of the Lord and see how they are doing.” 37 Barnabas wanted to take John, also called Mark, with them, 38 but Paul did not think it wise to take him, because he had deserted them in Pamphylia and had not continued with them in the work. 39 They had such a sharp disagreement that they parted company. Barnabas took Mark and sailed for Cyprus, 40 but Paul chose Silas and left, commended by the believers to the grace of the Lord. 41 He went through Syria and Cilicia, strengthening the churches.


The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
paulwhut
#23870 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2020 7:00:33 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 8,144
YOUR MANY THREADS REVEAL YOUR PERSONALITY AND YOUR MENTAL SITUATION.

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME ON THESE TWO THREADS YET YOU REFUSE TO STAY AWAY.

WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ACT LIKE THAT??????
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
rae1214
#23871 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2020 1:48:26 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 5/10/2010
Posts: 990
apparently neither one of you know what a forum is. here's a definition:

What is an Internet Forum? (with pictures) - wiseGEEK
https://www.wisegeek.com...is-an-internet-forum.htm

Jun 15, 2017 · An Internet forum is a discussion area on a website. Website members can post discussions and read and respond to posts by other forum members. A forum can be focused on nearly any subject and a sense of an online community, or virtual community, tends to develop among forum members. Internet forums allow members …


if you don't want anyone to reply, then get yourself a blog.
Intangible
#23872 Posted : Wednesday, October 14, 2020 4:54:42 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,657
Location: on a hill in the hollow
I know what a forum is supposed to be, an exchange of ideas, expression of opinions and facts. Unfortunately, Paulwhut wants to write inflammatory remarks and not expect any type of response. He refuses to discuss what he has written.


rae1214 wrote:
apparently neither one of you know what a forum is. here's a definition:

What is an Internet Forum? (with pictures) - wiseGEEK
https://www.wisegeek.com...is-an-internet-forum.htm

Jun 15, 2017 · An Internet forum is a discussion area on a website. Website members can post discussions and read and respond to posts by other forum members. A forum can be focused on nearly any subject and a sense of an online community, or virtual community, tends to develop among forum members. Internet forums allow members …


if you don't want anyone to reply, then get yourself a blog.

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
paulwhut
#23873 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2020 6:55:24 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 8,144
YOUR MANY THREADS REVEAL YOUR PERSONALITY AND YOUR MENTAL SITUATION.

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME ON THESE TWO THREADS YET YOU REFUSE TO STAY AWAY.

WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ACT LIKE THAT??????
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23874 Posted : Thursday, October 15, 2020 5:41:51 PM
Rank: Advanced Member



Joined: 1/4/2010
Posts: 10,657
Location: on a hill in the hollow
Posts like this show the true nature of Paulwhut and his brand of Christianity!


paulwhut wrote:
YOUR MANY THREADS REVEAL YOUR PERSONALITY AND YOUR MENTAL SITUATION.

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME ON THESE TWO THREADS YET YOU REFUSE TO STAY AWAY.

WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ACT LIKE THAT??????

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
paulwhut
#23875 Posted : Friday, October 16, 2020 7:15:14 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 8,144
YOUR MANY THREADS REVEAL YOUR PERSONALITY AND YOUR MENTAL SITUATION.

YOU ARE NOT WELCOME ON THESE TWO THREADS YET YOU REFUSE TO STAY AWAY.

WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ACT LIKE THAT??????
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
paulwhut
#23876 Posted : Saturday, October 17, 2020 7:13:29 AM
Rank: Advanced Member




Joined: 1/17/2008
Posts: 8,144
[size=9][color=indigo]Over the years this thread has mentioned the abuse of the RCC clergy to their congregation members.

Yes the RCC is the anti-Christ monster in the world.....changed the Ten Commandments, the day of worship and persecuted and killed millions of people
from the 4th century through 1798. and abuse continues to this day.

Daniel 7:23-25 (KJV) 23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces. 24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings. 25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

Sexual abuse by clergy
Sexual abuse
Without oversight, scores of accused priests commit crimes
By CLAUDIA LAUER and MEGHAN HOYER
yesterday

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In this Jan. 27, 2001, photo, Father Steven Gerard Stencil poses for a portrait at his church, St. Mark the Evangelist, in Oro Valley, Ariz. Stencil was suspended from ministry in 2001 after a trip to Mexico that violated a diocese policy forbidding clerics from being with minors overnight. In a 2019 Facebook post, the former priest said that he was working as a driver for a private Phoenix bus company that specializes in educational tours for school groups and scout troops. (Ben Kirkby/Arizona Daily Star via AP)

Nearly 1,700 priests and other clergy members that the Roman Catholic Church considers credibly accused of child sexual abuse are living under the radar with little to no oversight from religious authorities or law enforcement, decades after the first wave of the church abuse scandal roiled U.S. dioceses, an Associated Press investigation has found.

These priests, deacons, monks and lay people now teach middle-school math. They counsel survivors of sexual assault. They work as nurses and volunteer at nonprofits aimed at helping at-risk kids. They live next to playgrounds and day care centers. They foster and care for children.



And in their time since leaving the church, dozens have committed crimes, including sexual assault and possessing child pornography, the AP’s analysis found.

A recent push by Roman Catholic dioceses across the U.S. to publish the names of those it considers to be credibly accused has opened a window into the daunting problem of how to monitor and track priests who often were never criminally charged and, in many cases, were removed from or left the church to live as private citizens.

Full Coverage: The Reckoning

Each diocese determines its own standard to deem a priest credibly accused, with the allegations ranging from inappropriate conversations and unwanted hugging to forced sodomy and rape.

Dioceses and religious orders so far have shared the names of more than 5,100 clergy members, with more than three-quarters of the names released just in the last year. The AP researched the nearly 2,000 who remain alive to determine where they have lived and worked — the largest-scale review to date of what happened to priests named as possible sexual abusers.


In addition to the almost 1,700 that the AP was able to identify as largely unsupervised, there were 76 people who could not be located. The remaining clergy members were found to be under some kind of supervision, with some in prison or overseen by church programs.

The review found hundreds of priests held positions of trust, many with access to children. More than 160 continued working or volunteering in churches, including dozens in Catholic dioceses overseas and some in other denominations. Roughly 190 obtained professional licenses to work in education, medicine, social work and counseling — including 76 who, as of August, still had valid credentials in those fields.


The research also turned up cases where the priests were once again able to prey upon victims.



After Roger Sinclair was removed by the Diocese of Greensburg in Pennsylvania in 2002 for allegedly abusing a teenage boy decades earlier, he ended up in Oregon. In 2017, he was arrested for repeatedly molesting a young developmentally disabled man and is now imprisoned for a crime that the lead investigator in the Oregon case says should have never been allowed to happen.

Like Sinclair, the majority of people listed as credibly accused were never criminally prosecuted for the abuse alleged when they were part of the church. That lack of criminal history has revealed a sizable gray area that state licensing boards and background check services are not designed to handle as former priests seek new employment, apply to be foster parents and live in communities unaware of their presence and their pasts.


It also has left dioceses struggling with how — or if — former employees should be tracked and monitored. While victims’ advocates have pushed for more oversight, church officials say what’s being requested extends beyond what they legally can do. And civil authorities like police departments or prosecutors say their purview is limited to people convicted of crimes.

That means the heavy lift of tracking former priests has fallen to citizen watchdogs and victims, whose complaints have fueled suspensions, removals and firings. But even then, loopholes in state laws allow many former clergy to keep their new jobs even when the history of allegations becomes public.

“Defrocked or not, we’ve long argued that bishops can’t recruit, hire, ordain, supervise, shield, transfer and protect predator priests, then suddenly oust them and claim to be powerless over their whereabouts and activities,” said David Clohessy, the former executive director of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, who now heads the group’s St. Louis chapter.

“IT WAS SUPPOSED TO MAKE ABUSE HISTORY”

When the first big wave of the clergy abuse scandal hit Roman Catholic dioceses in the early 2000s, the U.S. bishops created the Dallas Charter, a baseline for sexual abuse reporting, training and other procedures to prevent child abuse. A handful of canon lawyers and experts at the time said every diocese should be transparent, name priests that had been accused of abuse and, in many cases, get rid of them.

Most dioceses decided against naming priests, however. And with the dioceses that did release lists in the next few years— some by choice, others due to lawsuit settlements or bankruptcy proceedings — abuse survivors complained about underreporting of priests, along with the omission of religious brothers they believed should be on those lists.

Full Coverage: The Reckoning
“The Dallas Charter was supposed to fix everything. It was supposed to make the abuse scandal history. But that didn’t happen,” said the Rev. Thomas Doyle, a canon lawyer who had tried to warn the bishops that abuse was widespread and that they should clean house.

After the charter was established in 2002, some critics say dioceses were more likely to simply defrock priests and return them to private citizenship.

Before 2018′s landmark Pennsylvania grand jury report, which named more than 300 predator priests accused of abusing more than 1,000 children in six dioceses, the official lists of credibly accused priests added up to fewer than 1,500 names nationwide. Now, within the span of a little more than a year, more than 100 dioceses and religious orders have come forward with thousands of names — but often little other information that can be used to alert the public.


Some of the lists merely provide names, without details of the abuse allegations that led to their inclusion, the dates of the priests’ assignments or the parishes where they served. And many don’t disclose the priests’ status with the church, which can vary from being moved into full retirement to being banished from performing public sacraments while continuing to perform administrative work. Only a handful of the lists include the last-known cities the priests lived in.

Over nine months, AP reporters and researchers scoured public databases, court records, property records, social media and other sources to locate the ousted clergy members.

That effort unearthed hundreds of these priests who, largely unwatched by church and civil authorities, chose careers that put them in new positions of trust and authority, including jobs in which they dealt with children and survivors of sexual abuse.

At least two worked as juvenile detention officers, in Washington and Arizona. Several others migrated to government roles like victims’ advocate or public health planner. Others landed jobs at places like Disney World, community centers or family shelters for domestic abuse. And one former priest started a nonprofit that sends people to volunteer in orphanages and other places in developing nations.

The AP determined that a handful adopted or fostered children, sponsored teens and young adults coming to the U.S. for educational opportunities, or worked with organizations that are part of the foster care system, though that number could be much higher since no public database tracks adoptive or foster parents.

Until February, former priest Steven Gerard Stencil worked at a Phoenix company that places severely disabled children in foster homes and trains foster parents to care for them. Colleagues knew he was a former priest, but were unaware of past allegations against him, according to Lauree Copenhaver, the firm’s executive director.

Stencil, now 67, was suspended from ministry in 2001 after a trip to Mexico that violated a diocese policy forbidding clerics from being with minors overnight. Around that time, a 17-year-old boy also complained that Stencil, then pastor of St. Anthony Parish in Casa Grande, Ariz., had grabbed his crotch in 1999 in a swimming pool. The diocese determined it was accidental touching, but turned the allegations over to police. No criminal charges were filed.

Since 2003, Stencil’s name has appeared on the Tucson diocese’s list of clerics credibly accused of sexually abusing children. His request to be voluntarily defrocked was granted in 2011.

Copenhaver said Stencil passed a fingerprint test showing he did not have a criminal history when he was first hired part time by Human Services Consultants LLC 12 years ago.

“We did not have any knowledge of his indiscretions, and had we known his history we would not have hired him,” she said, emphasizing that he did not have direct access to children in his job.

Stencil was fired from the company for unrelated reasons earlier this year. He later said in a post on his Facebook page that he was working as a driver for a private Phoenix bus company that specializes in educational tours for school groups and scout troops.

“I have always been upfront with my employers about my past as a priest,” Stencil wrote in an email to the AP when asked for comment. He said he unsuccessfully asked years ago for his name to be removed from the diocese’s list, adding, “Since then, I have decided to simply live my life as best I can.”

The AP’s analysis also found that more than 160 of the priests remained in the comfortable position of continuing to work or volunteer in a church, with three-quarters of those continuing to serve in some capacity in the Roman Catholic Church. Others moved on as ministers and priests in different denominations, with new roles such as organist or even as priests in Catholic churches not affiliated with the Vatican, sometimes despite known or published credible accusations against them.

In more than 30 cases, priests accused of sexual abuse in the U.S. simply moved overseas, where they worked as Roman Catholic priests in good standing in countries including Peru, Mexico, the Philippines, Ireland and Colombia.

The AP found that in all, roughly 110 clergy members moved or were suspected of moving out of the U.S. after allegations were made.

At least five priests were excommunicated from the Roman Catholic Church because of their refusal to stop participating in other religious activity.

More than three decades ago, James A. Funke and a fellow teacher at a St. Louis Catholic high school, Jerome Robben, went to prison for sexually abusing male students together. Funke, released in 1995, was eventually bounced from the priesthood. But years later, the two men joined together again, promoting Robben as the leader of a church of his own making.

Since 2004, Missouri records show that Robben has listed his St. Louis home as the base for a religious organization operating under at least three different names. Beginning in 2014, those papers have identified Funke as the order’s secretary and one of its three directors.

Mary Kruger, whose son committed suicide when he was 21 after being abused by the men in high school, said she raised fresh concerns about Robben in 2007 when she heard he was presenting himself as a cleric.

At the time, he was being considered for promotion to bishop in a conservative Christian order based in Ontario, Canada. Kruger said members of the order told her that Robben had dismissed questions about his abuse conviction, claiming he had merely rented an apartment to Funke and that police blamed him for not knowing what went on inside.

Robben eventually was defrocked from the Christian order, and apparently then started his own. Until last year, when its paperwork expired, the group was registered with Missouri officials as the Syrian Orthodox Exarchate. However, a Facebook post from 2017 identified Robben — photographed wearing a crown and gold vestments — as the leader of a Russian Byzantine order raising money to build a monastery in Nevada.

Funke refused to comment when approached by an AP reporter, and Robben did not respond to requests for comment.

“If they could wind up in jail next week, I’d be ecstatic,” Kruger said. “I think as long as they’re alive, they’re dangerous.”

LEFT THE CHURCH, COMMITTED CRIMINAL OFFENSES
As early as 1981, church officials knew of allegations that Roger Sinclair had acted inappropriately with adolescent boys. Two mothers at St. Mary’s Parish in Kittanning, Pennsylvania, wrote a letter to the then-bishop saying that Sinclair had molested their sons, both about 14 at the time.

Sinclair played a game where he would shake hands and then try to shove his hand at their genitals, the mothers said in their letter, parts of which were made public last year as part of the landmark report in Pennsylvania. They said he also tried to put his hands down one of the boy’s pants.

Other accusations emerged about Sinclair showing dirty movies to boys in the rectory, exposing himself and possibly molesting a teen he had taken on a trip to Florida a few years earlier. After a group of mothers called the police for advice, the police chief told them he had heard the rumors but took no action, according to documents reviewed by the Pennsylvania grand jury.

The church sent Sinclair for treatment, returned him to ministry and provided him with a letter that listed him as a priest in good standing so he could be a chaplain in the Archdiocese of Military Services, according to the grand jury. That assignment took him to at least four different states, including Kansas, where in the early ’90s he was a chaplain at the Topeka State Hospital, a now-closed state mental hospital that had a wing for teenagers.

He was fired from that assignment in 1991 after trying multiple times to check out male teenage patients to go see a movie. Administrators said he had managed “to gain access to a locked unit deceitfully.”

Sinclair was removed from ministry in 2002 while the diocese investigated claims from a victim who said the priest sexually abused him in the rectory and on field trips beginning at Sinclair’s first assignment as a priest. He resigned a few years later, before the church concluded proceedings to defrock him.

When he started serving on the board of directors of an Oregon senior center and working as a volunteer there, he was required to pass a background check because the center received federal dollars for the Meals on Wheels program. But no flags were raised because he was never charged in Pennsylvania.

According to accounts from both former center staffers and law enforcement officials, Sinclair’s downfall began when the center’s then-director looked outside and saw him with his hand down the young man’s pants. He immediately barred Sinclair from the center, but left it up to the man’s family to decide whether to press charges. Three months later, after learning why Sinclair had been absent, an employee went to the police out of fear the former priest would target someone else.

Now-Sgt. Steven Binstock, the lead investigator in Oregon, said Sinclair immediately confessed to committing multiple sexual acts with the developmentally disabled man. He also confessed to sexual contact with minors in Pennsylvania 30 years earlier.

“He was very vague, but he did tell us that it was some of the same type of behaviors, the same type of incidents, that had occurred with the victim that happened here,” Binstock told the AP.

The Pennsylvania diocese had never warned Oregon authorities about Sinclair because it stopped tracking him after he left the church. The diocese, which did not tell the public Sinclair had been accused of abuse until it released its list in August 2018, declined to comment on his case.

The AP’s analysis of the credibly accused church employees who remain alive found that more than 310 of the 2,000 have been charged with crimes for actions that took place when they were priests. Beyond that, the AP confirmed that Sinclair and 64 others have been charged with crimes committed after leaving the church, with most of them convicted for those crimes.

Some of the crimes involved drunken driving, theft or drug offenses. But 42 of the men were accused of crimes that were sexual in nature or violent, including a dozen charged with sexually assaulting minors. Thirteen were charged with distributing, making or possessing child pornography, and several others were caught masturbating in public or exposing themselves to people on planes or in shopping malls.

Five failed to register in their new communities as sex offenders as required due to their sex crime convictions.

Priests and other church employees being listed on sex offender registries at all is a rarity — the AP analysis found that only 85 of the 2,000 are. That’s because church officials often successfully lobbied civil authorities to downgrade charges in exchange for guilty pleas ahead of trials. Convictions were sometimes expunged if offenders completed probationary programs or the charges were reduced below the level required by states for registration.

Since sex offender registries in their current searchable form didn’t begin until the 1990s, dozens also were not tracked or monitored, because their original sentences already had been served before the registries were established.

The AP also found that more than 500 of the credibly accused former priests live within 2,000 feet of schools, playgrounds, childcare centers or other facilities that serve children, with many living much closer. In the states that restrict how close registered sex offenders can live to those facilities, limits range from 500 to 2,000 feet.

Decades after Louis Ladenburger was temporarily removed from the priesthood to be treated for “inappropriate professional behavior and relationships,” he was hired as a counselor at a school for troubled boys in Idaho.
Ladenburger was arrested in 2007 and accused of sexual battery; in a deal with prosecutors, he pleaded guilty to aggravated assault. He served about five months in prison.

According to Bonner County, Idaho, sheriff’s reports, students said Ladenburger told them he was a sex addict. During counseling sessions, they said, the former Franciscan priest rubbed their upper thighs and stomachs, held their hands and gave them shoulder and neck massages. If students expressed confusion about their sexual identities, the sheriff’s reports say he fondled them and performed oral sex on them.

Ladenburger was fired from the school. In an interview with sheriff’s officials at the time, he “admitted being a touchy person,” kissing many students and having his “needs met by the physical contact” with the boys.

By then, he’d been gone from the church for more than a decade — in 1996, the Vatican had granted his request to be released from his vows. No officials from his religious order or from the dioceses in six different states where he
had served had warned the school or provided details of the allegations against him when he was a priest.

In a lawsuit involving a sexual abuse allegation against another member of the Franciscan order, the complaint cited Ladenburger as an example of the harm done when church officials don’t report accusations of abuse to law enforcement, saying he likely never would have been hired at the school if the Franciscans had reported him when they first became aware.

“For all intents and purposes, they set loose a ticking time bomb that exploded in 2007,” the lawsuit said.

WHY FORMER PRIESTS AREN’T TRACKED
If priests choose to leave their dioceses or religious orders — or if the church decides to permanently defrock them in a process known as laicization — leaders say the church no longer has authority to monitor where they go.

After the Dallas Charter came a rush to laicize, resulting in more than 220 of the priests researched by the AP being laicized between 2004 and 2010. Roughly 40% of all the living credibly accused clergy members had either been laicized or had voluntarily left the church.

The laicized priests also are increasingly younger, giving them even more years to lead unsupervised lives, according to Deacon Bernie Nojadera, the executive director of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ Secretariat of Child and Youth Protection.

“That does create an opportunity for them to seek a second career,” Nojadera said. “So this is something a number of dioceses are grappling with and trying to figure out.”

For priests who don’t leave the church, dioceses and religious orders have more options to impose restrictions and monitoring. But how and whether that’s done ranges widely from diocese to diocese, since the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops cannot mandate specific regulations or procedures.

The AP found that the dioceses that released lists more than a decade ago have the most robust of the handful of existing programs.

In Chicago, accused priests who are removed from ministry can opt to join a program started in 2008 in which they continue to receive treatment, benefits and help, and get to “die a priest.” In exchange, they must sign over their right to privacy and agree to obey rules such as not living near a school.

“The monitoring is intrusive . I track their phone usage, I require daily logs of where they go, I track their internet usage and check their financial information and records. They have to tell me where they are going to be, who they will be with. And they have to meet with me twice a month face-to-face,” said Moira Reilly, the case manager in charge of the Chicago Archdiocese’s prayer and penance program.


>The Associated Press found of the 2,000 living priests and other church employees who’ve been named as credibly accused abusers, nearly 1,700 were living without much supervision. many were still active in churches, and dozens committed crimes. (Oct. 4)

Reilly, a licensed social worker, said many Catholics don’t understand why the church runs the program, instead pushing for every priest accused of abuse to be defrocked.

“If we laicize them or if we let them walk away ... no one is watching them,” she said. “I do this job because I truly believe that I am protecting the community. I truly believe that I am protecting children.”

In 2006, the Archdiocese of Detroit hired a former parole officer to monitor priests permanently removed from ministry after credible abuse allegations. Spokesman Ned McGrath said the program requires monthly written reports from the priests that include any contact or planned contact with minors and information on whether they attended treatment among other things.

In other dioceses, priests are sent to retirement homes for clergy or church properties that are easy to monitor, but also are often in close proximity or even share space with schools or universities.

The analysis found that many of the accused clergy members still receive pensions or health insurance from the church, since pensions are governed by federal statute and other benefits are dictated by the bishops in each diocese.
Victims’ advocates and others have suggested dioceses devise a system in which those benefits are contingent upon defrocked priests self-reporting their current addresses and employment.

“All a bishop has to do is tell a predator: ‘Here’s your choice. You’ll go live where I tell you, and you’ll get your pension, health insurance, etc. and be around your brothers but be supervised,’” SNAP’s Clohessy suggested, adding that if the former priests don’t agree, their benefits could be withheld.

But several church officials and lawyers note that robust federal laws prohibit withholding or threatening pensions.

Other experts who study child abuse have suggested the church create a database similar to the national sex offender registry that would allow the public and employers to identify credibly accused priests. But even that measure would not guarantee that licensing boards or employers flag a priest credibly accused but not convicted of abuse.

Doyle, the canon lawyer, said the bishops might not believe they can monitor defrocked priests, but that they could be forthcoming about allegations when potential employers call and could also be required to call child protective services in the states where laicized priests move.

The bishops also could address the issue of oversight by initiating a new framework along the lines of the groundbreaking Dallas Charter, which was approved by the pope, Doyle said. But he added that he didn’t trust the current church leadership to meaningfully address the issue.

“The bishops will never admit this, but when they do cut them loose, they believe they are no longer a liability,” he said, referring to the defrocked priests. “I severely doubt there is an incentive for them to want to fix this problem.”
Nojadera noted that it isn’t that simple, since decisions default to the individual bishops in each diocese.

“We have 197 different ways that the Dallas Charter is being implemented. It’s a road map, a bare minimum,” he said. “We do talk about situations where these men are being laicized and what happens to them. And our canon lawyers are quick to say there is no purview to monitor them.”

LICENSED TO TEACH AND COUNSEL
In many cases, the priests tracked by the AP went on to work in positions of trust in fields allowing close access to children and other vulnerable individuals — all with the approval of state credentialing boards, which often were powerless to deny them or unaware of the allegations until the dioceses’ lists were released.

The review found that 190 of the former clergy members gained licenses to work as educators, counselors, social workers or medical personnel, which can be easy places to land for priests already trained in counseling parishioners or working with youth groups.

One is Thomas Meiring who, after asking to leave the priesthood in 1983, began working as a licensed clinical counselor in Ohio, specializing in therapy for teens and adults with sexual orientation and gender identity issues.

Meiring maintained his state-issued license even after the diocese in Toledo settled a lawsuit in 2008 filed by a man who said he was 15 when Meiring sexually abused him in a church rectory in the late 1960s.

It wasn’t until 2016 that the Toledo diocese’s request to defrock Meiring was granted. State records show that Ohio’s Counselor, Social Worker and Marriage &amp; Family Therapist Board has never taken disciplinary action against the 81-year-old, who is among several treatment providers listed by a municipal court in suburban Toledo.

“We made noise about him years ago and nobody did anything. It’s mind-blowing,” said Claudia Vercellotti, who heads Toledo’s chapter of SNAP.

But Brian Carnahan, the licensing board’s executive director, said the law grants the authority to act only when allegations have resulted in a criminal conviction.
Multiple calls to Meiring at his home and office were not returned.

Few state licensing boards for professions like counselors or teachers have mechanisms in their background check procedures that would catch allegations that were never prosecuted. Some standard checks are conducted in every state, but the statutes regulating what can be taken into consideration when granting or revoking licenses vary. And because the lists of priests with credible allegations against them were so thin until the past year, there was little to cross-check.

Danielle Irving-Johnson, the career services specialist for the American Counseling Association, said criminal background checks are standard when licensing counselors, but that dismissing an application due to an unprosecuted allegation would be unusual.

“There would have to be substantial evidence or some form of documentation to support this accusation,” Irving-Johnson said.

The Alabama Board of Examiners in Psychology was not aware of the allegations against former priest William Finger when he was licensed as a counselor in 2012. The Brooklyn diocese publicly named Finger only in 2017, even though he had been laicized since 2002 because of abuse allegations.

According to a complaint filed in January with the board, a woman who asked not to be named contacted Finger’s employer last year to say he had abused her for a decade, beginning when he was a priest and she was 12 years old.

She said he kissed her, fondled her and digitally penetrated her and also alleged he had sexually abused her sister and a female cousin.

The employer fired Finger, now 83, and reported the allegations to the state’s licensing board.
In many states, allegations dating from before someone was licensed or that never made it to court would have been dismissed. But Alabama’s board issued an emergency suspension because it is allowed to consider issues of “moral character” from any point in a licensed individual’s life.

The decision whether to permanently suspend Finger’s license is pending. He did not return multiple messages from the AP but denied the allegations in a statement to the licensing board. He also remains licensed as a counselor and hypnotherapist in Florida.

The AP also found that 91 of the clergy members had been licensed to work in schools as teachers, principals, aides and school counselors, only 19 of whom had their licenses suspended or revoked. Twenty-eight still are actively licensed or hold lifetime certifications.

That’s almost surely an undercount, since some private, religious or online schools don’t require teachers to be licensed and states like New Jersey and Massachusetts don’t have public databases of teacher licenses.

School administrators in Cinnaminson, New Jersey, knew for years that sixth-grade teacher Joseph Michael DeShan had been forced from the priesthood for impregnating a teen parishioner. But nearly two decades later, he remained in a classroom.

DeShan, now 60, left the Bridgeport, Connecticut, diocese in 1989 after admitting having sex with the girl beginning when she was 14. Two years later, she got pregnant and gave birth. The diocese did not report DeShan to the police, and he was never prosecuted.

By 2002, he was working as a teacher in Cinnaminson when church disclosures about his past raised alarms. After a brief investigation, administrators allowed DeShan to return to the classroom, where he remained until last year, when a new generation of parents renewed cries for his removal.

The school board tried to fire him, citing both his conduct as a priest and recent remarks to a student about her “pretty green eyes.” In April, a state arbitrator ruled against the district,...
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
paulwhut
#23877 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2020 7:44:10 AM
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Joined: 1/17/2008
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Glenn Beck Fires Off Fiery Twitter Thread Listing Trump’s Accomplishments
Responding to a report that Senator Ben Sasse had privately criticized Trump
By  Hank Berrien

Oct 18, 2020   DailyWire.com

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On Friday, responding to a report that Nebraska GOP senator Ben Sasse had privately criticized President Trump, Glenn Beck issued a fiery twenty-tweet thread defending Trump as he listed the vast accomplishments of the president over the last four years. Beck was not always a fan of Trump’s, but he has become a stalwart champion of the president now, and this was the result:

Beck began, “So disappointed in @BenSasse. @realDonaldTrump has given us great judges on the lower court, 3 judges far superior to Roberts and other bogus constitutionalists as SCOTUS and one may just turn out to be another Clarence Thomas. He kicked the a** of ISIS and came home.”

“He got us out of the disastrous Iran deal, killed their head of terror, boxed them in and is currently collapsing their economy while ALSO brokering a Mideast peace deal THAT EVERYONE SAID COULD NEVER HAPPEN, he moved our embassy to Jerusalem despite the state department, something NO president has done even though they all promised,” Beck noted. “Yes, he met with the North Korean dictator. I hated that, but I also hated the fact that no other president did anything and NK kept gaining power. In swing how he has gotten Europe to pay their share of NATO, brought the Arabs and the Jews together while smashing the chokehold of the PLO, and stood up to the Chinese instead of selling them super computers (Clinton) accepting lead poison in dog food (bush) or loving the CCP and taking millions in dirty money (Obama/Biden).”

“I’m going to cut him some slack. @BenSasse, he has also defended religious liberty unlike any other president at least in the last 100 years, is a true PROLIFE advocate that unlike most Republicans backs it up with action instead of just talk,” Beck continued.

Then Beck turned to Trump’s dealings with minorities: “Made real inroads and open doors that the GOP was to wussy to even try to open with Hispanics and Blacks. He again didn’t pander, he instead cleared the deadwood and opened pathways up so they could get higher education, create jobs, and not get lost in the prison system.”

The economy:
@realDonaldTrump also took an economy that had been beaten down, a people who had been told ‘you didn’t build that’ and in fact — Obama and Biden claimed that this economy was as good as it would ever get, we would never create jobs in sectors ever again, only to give us the lowest unemployment rate since 1969. The year I celebrated my 5thbirthday. Lowest unemployment for Hispanics and blacks ever and causing the first real growth in pay that I can remember, then responded to the largest pandemic in 100 years by doing things I have never seen a president do.America’s biggest capitalist shuts down the entire economy and knowing puts his re-election at risk in order to save people. 2. Closes travel with China and Europe, only to be called “racist,’ ‘xenophobic,’ and stirring hatred. Now everyone says they were for it. He stood ALONE and took the heat. When everyone bashed him because he would seize control and become and authoritarian by telling states what to do or taking control of companies and telling them what to produce, he simply asked the free market to step to the plate, because he trusts the people of this country to do the right thing. By not taking control, he is called a dictator and a Nazi.

“Meanwhile he has been blamed for the bloodbath created by Gov. Cuomo’s nursing home policies,” Beck stated. “They said 2 million would die. Best case 200 IF WE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT. Gee, seems that we are now in the time period they told us would be Phase Two.

It seems as though we seem to have hit the best case scenario. While all of this has gone on, he has fought the lies that we now know were started intentionally by HRC team to smear @realDonaldTrump as a Russian operative. It was known and enabled by the Obama White House and included the DOJ, CIA, Dept. of State, FBI, and DNI. Did I leave anyone out? Oh, yeah we are now getting evidence that members of the Pentagon may have been involved as well. Not to mention the so-called ‘press’ and Congress who who did things that would embarrass not only ‘Frank Underwood’ but also Kevin Spacey.”

“He has single-handedly exposed the press for who they are and have always been,” Beck charged. “Because of his tweets, personal style and frankly balls of steel, he has exposed those who truly are enemies of the people. I hated that when he first said it, but it is true. Any person or group that knowingly lies to destroy our President, our Constitution and the free market are not just enemies of the people, they are enemies of the freedom of all mankind.”

Beck returned to addressing Sasse:
So yeah, @BenSasse, he has done some things I am not a fan of, but as someone who didn’t support him at first, (and that is putting it mildly), I remain honest enough to judge him on his entire record. He is perhaps the ONLY man in America (who) can and has stood entirely alone, surrounded by enemies, surrounded by those who took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, who are now actively engaged in destroying it and any elected president who stands in their way.

Personally, I have grown sick and tired of spineless, do-nothing, old, corrupt GOP politicians who are either part of the problem or too frightened to stand alone and speak up — the vast majority all sunshine patriots. History will condemn those who did nothing but complain and whine, while others not only rang the bell, but stood and took the hits. Who risked it all and lost money, reputation and perhaps God forbid, some who gave the ultimate sacrifice to fight the evil that rages so clearly against the light.

Beck concluded, “100 years from now history will judge all of us. So will our children’s children. Most will be forgotten. Those who failed to show up on the battlefield or cower in the trees will be remembered with shame and disdain. Others, like @realDonaldTrump, I believe will be seen as indispensable.”
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
Intangible
#23878 Posted : Monday, October 19, 2020 6:56:21 PM
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Glenn Beck is a right wing conspiracy theorist. If you like Trump, you will love Beck!


paulwhut wrote:
Glenn Beck Fires Off Fiery Twitter Thread Listing Trump’s Accomplishments
Responding to a report that Senator Ben Sasse had privately criticized Trump
By  Hank Berrien

Oct 18, 2020   DailyWire.com

Facebook

Twitter

Mail


Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg via Getty Images
On Friday, responding to a report that Nebraska GOP senator Ben Sasse had privately criticized President Trump, Glenn Beck issued a fiery twenty-tweet thread defending Trump as he listed the vast accomplishments of the president over the last four years. Beck was not always a fan of Trump’s, but he has become a stalwart champion of the president now, and this was the result:

Beck began, “So disappointed in @BenSasse. @realDonaldTrump has given us great judges on the lower court, 3 judges far superior to Roberts and other bogus constitutionalists as SCOTUS and one may just turn out to be another Clarence Thomas. He kicked the a** of ISIS and came home.”

“He got us out of the disastrous Iran deal, killed their head of terror, boxed them in and is currently collapsing their economy while ALSO brokering a Mideast peace deal THAT EVERYONE SAID COULD NEVER HAPPEN, he moved our embassy to Jerusalem despite the state department, something NO president has done even though they all promised,” Beck noted. “Yes, he met with the North Korean dictator. I hated that, but I also hated the fact that no other president did anything and NK kept gaining power. In swing how he has gotten Europe to pay their share of NATO, brought the Arabs and the Jews together while smashing the chokehold of the PLO, and stood up to the Chinese instead of selling them super computers (Clinton) accepting lead poison in dog food (bush) or loving the CCP and taking millions in dirty money (Obama/Biden).”

“I’m going to cut him some slack. @BenSasse, he has also defended religious liberty unlike any other president at least in the last 100 years, is a true PROLIFE advocate that unlike most Republicans backs it up with action instead of just talk,” Beck continued.

Then Beck turned to Trump’s dealings with minorities: “Made real inroads and open doors that the GOP was to wussy to even try to open with Hispanics and Blacks. He again didn’t pander, he instead cleared the deadwood and opened pathways up so they could get higher education, create jobs, and not get lost in the prison system.”

The economy:
@realDonaldTrump also took an economy that had been beaten down, a people who had been told ‘you didn’t build that’ and in fact — Obama and Biden claimed that this economy was as good as it would ever get, we would never create jobs in sectors ever again, only to give us the lowest unemployment rate since 1969. The year I celebrated my 5thbirthday. Lowest unemployment for Hispanics and blacks ever and causing the first real growth in pay that I can remember, then responded to the largest pandemic in 100 years by doing things I have never seen a president do.America’s biggest capitalist shuts down the entire economy and knowing puts his re-election at risk in order to save people. 2. Closes travel with China and Europe, only to be called “racist,’ ‘xenophobic,’ and stirring hatred. Now everyone says they were for it. He stood ALONE and took the heat. When everyone bashed him because he would seize control and become and authoritarian by telling states what to do or taking control of companies and telling them what to produce, he simply asked the free market to step to the plate, because he trusts the people of this country to do the right thing. By not taking control, he is called a dictator and a Nazi.

“Meanwhile he has been blamed for the bloodbath created by Gov. Cuomo’s nursing home policies,” Beck stated. “They said 2 million would die. Best case 200 IF WE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT. Gee, seems that we are now in the time period they told us would be Phase Two.

It seems as though we seem to have hit the best case scenario. While all of this has gone on, he has fought the lies that we now know were started intentionally by HRC team to smear @realDonaldTrump as a Russian operative. It was known and enabled by the Obama White House and included the DOJ, CIA, Dept. of State, FBI, and DNI. Did I leave anyone out? Oh, yeah we are now getting evidence that members of the Pentagon may have been involved as well. Not to mention the so-called ‘press’ and Congress who who did things that would embarrass not only ‘Frank Underwood’ but also Kevin Spacey.”

“He has single-handedly exposed the press for who they are and have always been,” Beck charged. “Because of his tweets, personal style and frankly balls of steel, he has exposed those who truly are enemies of the people. I hated that when he first said it, but it is true. Any person or group that knowingly lies to destroy our President, our Constitution and the free market are not just enemies of the people, they are enemies of the freedom of all mankind.”

Beck returned to addressing Sasse:
So yeah, @BenSasse, he has done some things I am not a fan of, but as someone who didn’t support him at first, (and that is putting it mildly), I remain honest enough to judge him on his entire record. He is perhaps the ONLY man in America (who) can and has stood entirely alone, surrounded by enemies, surrounded by those who took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, who are now actively engaged in destroying it and any elected president who stands in their way.

Personally, I have grown sick and tired of spineless, do-nothing, old, corrupt GOP politicians who are either part of the problem or too frightened to stand alone and speak up — the vast majority all sunshine patriots. History will condemn those who did nothing but complain and whine, while others not only rang the bell, but stood and took the hits. Who risked it all and lost money, reputation and perhaps God forbid, some who gave the ultimate sacrifice to fight the evil that rages so clearly against the light.

Beck concluded, “100 years from now history will judge all of us. So will our children’s children. Most will be forgotten. Those who failed to show up on the battlefield or cower in the trees will be remembered with shame and disdain. Others, like @realDonaldTrump, I believe will be seen as indispensable.”

The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
paulwhut
#23879 Posted : Tuesday, October 20, 2020 7:31:09 AM
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Glenn Beck Fires Off Fiery Twitter Thread Listing Trump’s Accomplishments
Responding to a report that Senator Ben Sasse had privately criticized Trump
By Hank Berrien

Oct 18, 2020 DailyWire.com

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Twitter

Mail


Andrew Harrer/Bloomberg via Getty Images
On Friday, responding to a report that Nebraska GOP senator Ben Sasse had privately criticized President Trump, Glenn Beck issued a fiery twenty-tweet thread defending Trump as he listed the vast accomplishments of the president over the last four years. Beck was not always a fan of Trump’s, but he has become a stalwart champion of the president now, and this was the result:

Beck began, “So disappointed in @BenSasse. @realDonaldTrump has given us great judges on the lower court, 3 judges far superior to Roberts and other bogus constitutionalists as SCOTUS and one may just turn out to be another Clarence Thomas. He kicked the a** of ISIS and came home.”

“He got us out of the disastrous Iran deal, killed their head of terror, boxed them in and is currently collapsing their economy while ALSO brokering a Mideast peace deal THAT EVERYONE SAID COULD NEVER HAPPEN, he moved our embassy to Jerusalem despite the state department, something NO president has done even though they all promised,” Beck noted. “Yes, he met with the North Korean dictator. I hated that, but I also hated the fact that no other president did anything and NK kept gaining power. In swing how he has gotten Europe to pay their share of NATO, brought the Arabs and the Jews together while smashing the chokehold of the PLO, and stood up to the Chinese instead of selling them super computers (Clinton) accepting lead poison in dog food (bush) or loving the CCP and taking millions in dirty money (Obama/Biden).”

“I’m going to cut him some slack. @BenSasse, he has also defended religious liberty unlike any other president at least in the last 100 years, is a true PROLIFE advocate that unlike most Republicans backs it up with action instead of just talk,” Beck continued.

Then Beck turned to Trump’s dealings with minorities: “Made real inroads and open doors that the GOP was to wussy to even try to open with Hispanics and Blacks. He again didn’t pander, he instead cleared the deadwood and opened pathways up so they could get higher education, create jobs, and not get lost in the prison system.”

The economy:
@realDonaldTrump also took an economy that had been beaten down, a people who had been told ‘you didn’t build that’ and in fact — Obama and Biden claimed that this economy was as good as it would ever get, we would never create jobs in sectors ever again, only to give us the lowest unemployment rate since 1969. The year I celebrated my 5thbirthday. Lowest unemployment for Hispanics and blacks ever and causing the first real growth in pay that I can remember, then responded to the largest pandemic in 100 years by doing things I have never seen a president do.America’s biggest capitalist shuts down the entire economy and knowing puts his re-election at risk in order to save people. 2. Closes travel with China and Europe, only to be called “racist,’ ‘xenophobic,’ and stirring hatred. Now everyone says they were for it. He stood ALONE and took the heat. When everyone bashed him because he would seize control and become and authoritarian by telling states what to do or taking control of companies and telling them what to produce, he simply asked the free market to step to the plate, because he trusts the people of this country to do the right thing. By not taking control, he is called a dictator and a Nazi.

“Meanwhile he has been blamed for the bloodbath created by Gov. Cuomo’s nursing home policies,” Beck stated. “They said 2 million would die. Best case 200 IF WE DID EVERYTHING RIGHT. Gee, seems that we are now in the time period they told us would be Phase Two.

It seems as though we seem to have hit the best case scenario. While all of this has gone on, he has fought the lies that we now know were started intentionally by HRC team to smear @realDonaldTrump as a Russian operative. It was known and enabled by the Obama White House and included the DOJ, CIA, Dept. of State, FBI, and DNI. Did I leave anyone out? Oh, yeah we are now getting evidence that members of the Pentagon may have been involved as well. Not to mention the so-called ‘press’ and Congress who who did things that would embarrass not only ‘Frank Underwood’ but also Kevin Spacey.”

“He has single-handedly exposed the press for who they are and have always been,” Beck charged. “Because of his tweets, personal style and frankly balls of steel, he has exposed those who truly are enemies of the people. I hated that when he first said it, but it is true. Any person or group that knowingly lies to destroy our President, our Constitution and the free market are not just enemies of the people, they are enemies of the freedom of all mankind.”

Beck returned to addressing Sasse:
So yeah, @BenSasse, he has done some things I am not a fan of, but as someone who didn’t support him at first, (and that is putting it mildly), I remain honest enough to judge him on his entire record. He is perhaps the ONLY man in America (who) can and has stood entirely alone, surrounded by enemies, surrounded by those who took an oath to protect and defend the Constitution, who are now actively engaged in destroying it and any elected president who stands in their way.

Personally, I have grown sick and tired of spineless, do-nothing, old, corrupt GOP politicians who are either part of the problem or too frightened to stand alone and speak up — the vast majority all sunshine patriots. History will condemn those who did nothing but complain and whine, while others not only rang the bell, but stood and took the hits. Who risked it all and lost money, reputation and perhaps God forbid, some who gave the ultimate sacrifice to fight the evil that rages so clearly against the light.

Beck concluded, “100 years from now history will judge all of us. So will our children’s children. Most will be forgotten. Those who failed to show up on the battlefield or cower in the trees will be remembered with shame and disdain. Others, like @realDonaldTrump, I believe will be seen as indispensable.”
Many wonder today why the Republican party does nothing to defeat the treasonous
schemes of the Democrats. It is because the pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly
infiltrated the Republican party as well as the Democratic party. Many wonder why
the news media lie so much to support and protect the Democrats. It is because the
pope’s Jesuits have thoroughly infiltrated the news media. The news media and
schools and colleges, with their lies and propaganda, have so conditioned the
people of the country that they are unable to recognize what has been done to them.
Victory for the Jesuits seems very near. The Jesuits are like a cancer that has
pervaded nearly every fiber of the society of the United States. We are being
defeated by the enemy within.

For many years the Jesuits have prevented the United States from developing
additional sources of energy within its own territory. Exploiting the vast oilfields on
the Alaskan north slope, that probably contain more oil than the entire middle east,
is forbidden. New nuclear power plants, the safest source of electric energy ever
discovered, are not permitted. There is no end to the lies people have been made to
believe about Nuclear energy. The environment is used as the club to subdue the
people of the country into going along with this idiocy. Modern technology is able to
develop these sources of power without any damage to the environment. France
gets 80% of its power from nuclear power plants without any problems. Needless to
say, without sufficient energy, the United States will not be able to defend itself. All
the papacy has to do is cut off the oil supply from the middle east.

The United States is now starting to feel the pinch of the energy shortage the Jesuits
have created. People have experienced blackouts over large areas as power is shut
off to stay within the limits of generating capacity. Today, instead of constructing
additional nuclear power plants, some of these plants are being dismantled! Will the
people of the United States be able to wake up in time to prevent the coming
national tragedy?

Not only in the United States is this treachery being perpetrated by the papacy, but
they are secretly at work all over the world to subvert all the nations of the world.

"And all the world wondered after the beast." Rev 13:3 last part.
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