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It never ceases to amaze me the double moral standards used by many evangelicals. The day the evangelicals elected Trump, they lost all moral credibility, if they had any before. This is the man you all chose to represent yourselves to the world. A vulgar, willfully ignorant, narcissistic, adulterous, self-declared sexual predator, con man that you seem to think God the Almighty Creator told you to elect.
Be warned all you goody-two-shoes, this has deplorable language, but then, you don't really care because you voted for that vile excuse for a man!Trump Transcript Following is an unedited transcript of the tape in which Donald J. Trump repeatedly made vulgar comments about women. Mr. Trump was filmed talking to the television personality Billy Bush of “Access Hollywood” on the set of “Days of Our Lives,” where Mr. Trump was making a cameo appearance. They are later joined by the actress Arianne Zucker. The transcription is by Penn Bullock of The New York Times. Donald J. Trump: You know and ... Unknown: She used to be great. She’s still very beautiful. Trump: I moved on her, actually. You know, she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I’ll admit it. Unknown: Whoa. Trump: I did try and fuck her. She was married. Unknown: That’s huge news. Trump: No, no, Nancy. No, this was [unintelligible] — and I moved on her very heavily. In fact, I took her out furniture shopping. She wanted to get some furniture. I said, “I’ll show you where they have some nice furniture.” I took her out furniture — I moved on her like a bitch. But I couldn’t get there. And she was married. Then all of a sudden I see her, she’s now got the big phony tits and everything. She’s totally changed her look. Billy Bush: Sheesh, your girl’s hot as shit. In the purple. Trump: Whoa! Whoa! Bush: Yes! The Donald has scored. Whoa, my man! [Crosstalk] Trump: Look at you, you are a pussy. [Crosstalk] Trump: All right, you and I will walk out. [Silence] Trump: Maybe it’s a different one. Bush: It better not be the publicist. No, it’s, it’s her, it’s — Trump: Yeah, that’s her. With the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know, I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything. Bush: Whatever you want. Trump: Grab ’em by the pussy. You can do anything. Bush: Uh, yeah, those legs, all I can see is the legs. Trump: Oh, it looks good. Bush: Come on shorty. Trump: Ooh, nice legs, huh? Bush: Oof, get out of the way, honey. Oh, that’s good legs. Go ahead. Trump: It’s always good if you don’t fall out of the bus. Like Ford, Gerald Ford, remember? Bush: Down below, pull the handle. Trump: Hello, how are you? Hi! Arianne Zucker: Hi, Mr. Trump. How are you? Pleasure to meet you. Trump: Nice seeing you. Terrific, terrific. You know Billy Bush? Bush: Hello, nice to see you. How you doing, Arianne? Zucker: Doing very well, thank you. Are you ready to be a soap star? The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
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We won.
And there is no need to apologize to leftist/Marxists
who would have preferred the Clinton crime family in the White House
and Podesta for Secretary of State.
You better get your act together unless you want another term from Trump.
But they won't get their act together. It's a done deal.
And I suppose we will have to listen to this garbage for another four years.
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You LOST the popular vote by millions of votes.
"Apologize"? No, it is too late for that, Trump was appointed and the damage is just beginning. I will post on the MOTUS until he is gone and I will continue to remind evangelicals of their responsibility in the degradation of American morality, values and world standing.stevelundgren wrote:
We won.
And there is no need to apologize to leftist/Marxists
who would have preferred the Clinton crime family in the White House
and Podesta for Secretary of State.
You better get your act together unless you want another term from Trump.
But they won't get their act together. It's a done deal.
And I suppose we will have to listen to this garbage for another four years.
The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
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Those are good points. Nasty is the perfect word. Just nasty.
And pretending to have the moral high ground. What a joke.
Now he's trying to run with the "popular vote" angle again.
Explaining how they won the football game on a technicality
when we were actually playing baseball.
TheCatsMeow wrote:You notice they always throw that argument out there when they've got nothing. The worst of all their arguments and pretty much the only one they've got left. It is interesting to me how vulgar and nasty they are. What filthy minds they have to dwell on this. Their nasty cartoons, filthy words and quotes from those filthy representatives of the Hollywood set. This is the example of the new democrat! And they wonder why the Christians wanted to turn the tide of the country around. Fortunately they succeeded. Can you imagine the Dims leading the country again with what we see of them now?
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This entire mess lies squarely at the feet of self-righteous, right wing religious zealots. They voted for a very vulgar man and then try to claim some sort of moral superiority if any of his many character flaws are pointed out..... oh such self-righteous indignation from the Trumpettes! TheCatsMeow wrote:You notice they always throw that argument out there when they've got nothing. The worst of all their arguments and pretty much the only one they've got left. It is interesting to me how vulgar and nasty they are. What filthy minds they have to dwell on this. Their nasty cartoons, filthy words and quotes from those filthy representatives of the Hollywood set. This is the example of the new democrat! And they wonder why the Christians wanted to turn the tide of the country around. Fortunately they succeeded. Can you imagine the Dims leading the country again with what we see of them now? You and your kind voted for the most despicable man ever to run for the presidency. YOU voted for the vulgar pig, but you blame me for what you seem to think are "nasty cartoons, filthy words and quotes from those filthy representatives of the Hollywood set." His THIRD wife was a nude model, but YOU voted for the normalization of racism, hatred and incredibly base moral values.
Apparently most people seem to think there are only two political parties in this nation. If evangelicals all teamed up they could easily elect someone that truly represents Christian values no matter what their party choice. Rather than running around screaming about e-mails and having to choose the lesser of two evils, start out with a candidate. Absolutely nothing will improve in this nation until people actually get rid of the cesspool!The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
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We have to face it, right wing religious zealots will turn a blind eye to ANY sins of their candidates. Nothing will ever open their eyes, having been blinded by the greed and immoral filth that Trump has normalized. Evangelicals Have A ChoiceFor some evangelicals, a choice between Moore and moralityBy Marc Fisher November 16 at 3:15 PMPastor David Floyd, appalled that a president of the United States had the soul-destroying gall to embark on a sexual relationship with a woman less than half his age, told his Alabama flock in 1998 that Bill Clinton had crossed the line and had to go.As allegations of advances by Senate candidate Roy Moore on women less than half his age have peppered Alabama voters almost daily over the past week, Floyd is telling his congregation that Moore is “an upright man” who should be forgiven for his sins and elected to office. Floyd, who for 34 years has been the pastor at Marvyn Parkway Baptist Church in Opelika, says his evangelical theology has not changed in the past two decades. It’s just that he knows Moore to be a more moral man than Clinton was.What’s happening in the churches of Alabama — a state where half the residents consider themselves evangelical Christians, double the national average, according to a Pew Research study — is nothing less than a battle for the meaning of evangelism, some church leaders say. It is a titanic struggle between those who believe there must be one clear, unalterable moral standard and those who argue that to win the war for the nation’s soul, Christians must accept morally flawed leaders. “What you’re seeing here is rank hypocrisy,” said John Fea, an evangelical Christian who teaches history at Messiah College in Mechanicsburg, Pa. “These are evangelicals who have decided that the way to win the culture is now uncoupled from character. Their goal is the same as it was 30 years ago, to restore America to its Christian roots, but the political playbook has changed. “ With Donald Trump, the playbook faced its greatest test because he was not a man of character that evangelicals could embrace, but many did anyway. In the Roy Moore situation, very much like Trump’s ‘Access Hollywood’ situation, they’ve decided that the need to keep the Senate justifies embracing someone whose behavior they would universally condemn,” Fea said. “I wish I could tell you there was some interesting theological distinction here, but it’s all just politics. It is a form of moral relativism.” In supporting Trump, Jeffress decided that although the president “may not be a perfect Christian, he is a good leader.” About 80 percent of white evangelicals voted for Trump last year, exit polls showed. The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
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That says it all. He's a political bigot.
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This "If you aren't a leftist you're scum.", garbage.
No place for a different political opinion.
The end of free speech. They want you to pay the price for disagreeing with them.
No place for any dissenters. Communist rule.
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I am not even talking about any political aspects or opinions..... this has nothing to do at all with politics. This is all about the deplorable moral character and willful ignorance of the man you elected.
I never said or implied anything about "scum" or "garbage". Once again you add your personal interpretation of everything I write. All I can say is if the shoe fits wear it proudly.
You need to own up to the fact that YOU voted for the most evil, corrupt person that has EVER run for the presidency!
You are welcome to your opinions and I have not tried to stifle your dissent, so your slurs are as meaningless as they are wrong.stevelundgren wrote:
That says it all. He's a political bigot.
This "If you aren't a leftist you're scum.", garbage.
No place for a different political opinion.
The end of free speech. They want you to pay the price for disagreeing with them.
No place for any dissenters. Communist rule.
The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
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Republicans again prove Christian values have no place in politics in this nation. Alabama Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore of sexual predation, but having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens.Governor Ivey Will Vote for MooreGov. Kay Ivey to vote for Roy Moore in U.S. Senate raceUpdated Nov 17, 4:16 PM; Posted Nov 17, 3:18 PMAlabama Gov. Kay Ivey said today she plans to vote for Roy Moore in the Dec. 12 election for the U.S. Senate despite allegations of Moore's sexual encounters with teenage girls about 40 years ago, which Moore has adamantly denied. Ivey said today she was bothered by the allegations against Moore, but had to weigh all the available information. She was asked if she believed Moore's accusers. "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them," Ivey said. "The timing is a little curious. But at the same time, I have no reason to disbelieve them."
"There's never an excuse for or rationale for sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."Ivey said that concern was a factor in her decision."Consider all the information that you have," Ivey said. "Certainly, it has an impact. But at the same time, the United States Senate needs to have in my opinion, a majority of Republican votes to carry the day and when they have to consider other major decisions. So that's a factor, as well." Ivey said. "I believe in the Republican Party, what we stand for, and most important, we need to have a Republican in the United States Senate"So just what does the Republican Party stand for? Apparently men, sexual predators, are quite acceptable!The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
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Note the disparity between the leftist's introductory summary statement
and what was actually quoted in the article. Who's being dishonest here?
The leftist: "Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore..."
Gov. Kay Ivey: "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them..."
There is a distinct difference between "believes" and "no reason to disbelieve".
The leftist: "Governor Kay Ivey states that...
having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens."
Gov. Kay Ivey: "There's never an excuse for or rationale for
sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."
Slanderous misquotes from a leftist with no moral compass.
Not even hiding the truth. He hopes that you only read his introductory
summary statement and not the quoted article.
Intangible wrote:Republicans again prove Christian values have no place in politics in this nation. Alabama Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore of sexual predation, but having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens.Governor Ivey Will Vote for MooreGov. Kay Ivey to vote for Roy Moore in U.S. Senate raceUpdated Nov 17, 4:16 PM; Posted Nov 17, 3:18 PMAlabama Gov. Kay Ivey said today she plans to vote for Roy Moore in the Dec. 12 election for the U.S. Senate despite allegations of Moore's sexual encounters with teenage girls about 40 years ago, which Moore has adamantly denied. Ivey said today she was bothered by the allegations against Moore, but had to weigh all the available information. She was asked if she believed Moore's accusers. "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them," Ivey said. "The timing is a little curious. But at the same time, I have no reason to disbelieve them."
"There's never an excuse for or rationale for sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."Ivey said that concern was a factor in her decision."Consider all the information that you have," Ivey said. "Certainly, it has an impact. But at the same time, the United States Senate needs to have in my opinion, a majority of Republican votes to carry the day and when they have to consider other major decisions. So that's a factor, as well." Ivey said. "I believe in the Republican Party, what we stand for, and most important, we need to have a Republican in the United States Senate"So just what does the Republican Party stand for? Apparently men, sexual predators, are quite acceptable!
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Everyone has a right to their opinion, but it takes a "special person" to make a career of dissecting and criticizing every post sentence by sentence, all while never having anything to say. I guess this is an evangelical thing......
Evangelicals have become the apologist arm of the Republican Party. Foul language, no problem, adultery, no problem, an egocentric narcissist, vengeful, covetous, greedy con man..... nothing matters at all because Hillary lost. They would have sold their soul to the devil just to keep Hillary from being POTUS.
Read the complete article by clicking the link provided. You can also watch the video of her short question and answer session.Governor Ivey Will Vote for MooreRepublicans again prove Christian values have no place in politics in this nation. Alabama Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore of sexual predation, but having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens.Governor Ivey Will Vote for MooreGov. Kay Ivey to vote for Roy Moore in U.S. Senate raceUpdated Nov 17, 4:16 PM; Posted Nov 17, 3:18 PMAlabama Gov. Kay Ivey said today she plans to vote for Roy Moore in the Dec. 12 election for the U.S. Senate despite allegations of Moore's sexual encounters with teenage girls about 40 years ago, which Moore has adamantly denied. Ivey said today she was bothered by the allegations against Moore, but had to weigh all the available information. She was asked if she believed Moore's accusers. "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them," Ivey said. "The timing is a little curious. But at the same time, I have no reason to disbelieve them."
"There's never an excuse for or rationale for sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."Ivey said that concern was a factor in her decision."Consider all the information that you have," Ivey said. "Certainly, it has an impact. But at the same time, the United States Senate needs to have in my opinion, a majority of Republican votes to carry the day and when they have to consider other major decisions. So that's a factor, as well." Ivey said. "I believe in the Republican Party, what we stand for, and most important, we need to have a Republican in the United States Senate"So just what does the Republican Party stand for? Apparently men, sexual predators, are quite acceptable! Apparently this is fine with evangelicals too. The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
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That's your response to being caught lying and slandering?
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Is that what makes you a "special person"?
Your supposed morally superior end justifies any means necessary? (BAMN)
You criticize me for something Trump may have done years ago.
I criticize you for what you are doing right now.
stevelundgren wrote:
Note the disparity between the leftist's introductory summary statement
and what was actually quoted in the article. Who's being dishonest here?
The leftist: "Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore..."
Gov. Kay Ivey: "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them..."
There is a distinct difference between "believes" and "no reason to disbelieve".
The leftist: "Governor Kay Ivey states that...
having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens."
Gov. Kay Ivey: "There's never an excuse for or rationale for
sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."
Slanderous misquotes from a leftist with no moral compass.
Not even hiding the truth. He hopes that you only read his introductory
summary statement and not the quoted article.
Intangible wrote:Republicans again prove Christian values have no place in politics in this nation. Alabama Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore of sexual predation, but having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens.Governor Ivey Will Vote for MooreGov. Kay Ivey to vote for Roy Moore in U.S. Senate raceUpdated Nov 17, 4:16 PM; Posted Nov 17, 3:18 PMAlabama Gov. Kay Ivey said today she plans to vote for Roy Moore in the Dec. 12 election for the U.S. Senate despite allegations of Moore's sexual encounters with teenage girls about 40 years ago, which Moore has adamantly denied. Ivey said today she was bothered by the allegations against Moore, but had to weigh all the available information. She was asked if she believed Moore's accusers. "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them," Ivey said. "The timing is a little curious. But at the same time, I have no reason to disbelieve them."
"There's never an excuse for or rationale for sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."Ivey said that concern was a factor in her decision."Consider all the information that you have," Ivey said. "Certainly, it has an impact. But at the same time, the United States Senate needs to have in my opinion, a majority of Republican votes to carry the day and when they have to consider other major decisions. So that's a factor, as well." Ivey said. "I believe in the Republican Party, what we stand for, and most important, we need to have a Republican in the United States Senate"So just what does the Republican Party stand for? Apparently men, sexual predators, are quite acceptable!
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Your condemnation is hollow and empty, meaningless. When you vote for and turn a blind eye to sexual deviants, you make yourself irrelevant in any moral discussion. stevelundgren wrote:
That's your response to being caught lying and slandering?
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Is that what makes you a "special person"?
Your supposed morally superior end justifies any means necessary? (BAMN)
You criticize me for something Trump may have done years ago.
I criticize you for what you are doing right now.
stevelundgren wrote:
Note the disparity between the leftist's introductory summary statement
and what was actually quoted in the article. Who's being dishonest here?
The leftist: "Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore..."
Gov. Kay Ivey: "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them..."
There is a distinct difference between "believes" and "no reason to disbelieve".
The leftist: "Governor Kay Ivey states that...
having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens."
Gov. Kay Ivey: "There's never an excuse for or rationale for
sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."
Slanderous misquotes from a leftist with no moral compass.
Not even hiding the truth. He hopes that you only read his introductory
summary statement and not the quoted article.
Intangible wrote:Republicans again prove Christian values have no place in politics in this nation. Alabama Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore of sexual predation, but having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens.Governor Ivey Will Vote for MooreGov. Kay Ivey to vote for Roy Moore in U.S. Senate raceUpdated Nov 17, 4:16 PM; Posted Nov 17, 3:18 PMAlabama Gov. Kay Ivey said today she plans to vote for Roy Moore in the Dec. 12 election for the U.S. Senate despite allegations of Moore's sexual encounters with teenage girls about 40 years ago, which Moore has adamantly denied. Ivey said today she was bothered by the allegations against Moore, but had to weigh all the available information. She was asked if she believed Moore's accusers. "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them," Ivey said. "The timing is a little curious. But at the same time, I have no reason to disbelieve them."
"There's never an excuse for or rationale for sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."Ivey said that concern was a factor in her decision."Consider all the information that you have," Ivey said. "Certainly, it has an impact. But at the same time, the United States Senate needs to have in my opinion, a majority of Republican votes to carry the day and when they have to consider other major decisions. So that's a factor, as well." Ivey said. "I believe in the Republican Party, what we stand for, and most important, we need to have a Republican in the United States Senate"So just what does the Republican Party stand for? Apparently men, sexual predators, are quite acceptable! The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
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DON'T POST ON MY THREADS UNLESS YOU WANT ME ALL OVER YOURS.!!
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Your post is a threat, nothing but abusive harassment. Stop making me or my posts topics in your threads and I will never post there. However you continually quote me or criticize me in your posts and then go bonkers all over my threads when I respond. Grow up, I do not discuss you or address you on any of my threads, if you do the same I will not post on yours... it is as simple as that, leave me alone and I will never post on any of your threadsTheCatsMeow wrote:DON'T POST ON MY THREADS UNLESS YOU WANT ME ALL OVER YOURS.!! The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
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Really?
That's your excuse for being caught lying and slandering?
You give yourself permission.
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Your condemnation is hollow and empty, meaningless. When you vote for and turn a blind eye to sexual deviants, you make yourself irrelevant in any moral discussion.
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I exercised my rightful freedom in the political process of this great country.
And for that you consider me to be less than human?
Who are the REAL Nazis here?
You criticize me for something Trump may have done years ago.
And for unproven allegations against Moore for something that may have been done years ago.
I criticize you for what you are doing right now.
How could what you are doing right now be irrelevant?
stevelundgren wrote:
Note the disparity between the leftist's introductory summary statement
and what was actually quoted in the article. Who's being dishonest here?
The leftist: "Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore..."
Gov. Kay Ivey: "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them..."
There is a distinct difference between "believes" and "no reason to disbelieve".
The leftist: "Governor Kay Ivey states that...
having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens."
Gov. Kay Ivey: "There's never an excuse for or rationale for
sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."
Slanderous misquotes from a leftist with no moral compass.
Not even hiding the truth. He hopes that you only read his introductory
summary statement and not the quoted article.
Intangible wrote:Republicans again prove Christian values have no place in politics in this nation. Alabama Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore of sexual predation, but having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens.Governor Ivey Will Vote for MooreGov. Kay Ivey to vote for Roy Moore in U.S. Senate raceUpdated Nov 17, 4:16 PM; Posted Nov 17, 3:18 PMAlabama Gov. Kay Ivey said today she plans to vote for Roy Moore in the Dec. 12 election for the U.S. Senate despite allegations of Moore's sexual encounters with teenage girls about 40 years ago, which Moore has adamantly denied. Ivey said today she was bothered by the allegations against Moore, but had to weigh all the available information. She was asked if she believed Moore's accusers. "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them," Ivey said. "The timing is a little curious. But at the same time, I have no reason to disbelieve them."
"There's never an excuse for or rationale for sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."Ivey said that concern was a factor in her decision."Consider all the information that you have," Ivey said. "Certainly, it has an impact. But at the same time, the United States Senate needs to have in my opinion, a majority of Republican votes to carry the day and when they have to consider other major decisions. So that's a factor, as well." Ivey said. "I believe in the Republican Party, what we stand for, and most important, we need to have a Republican in the United States Senate"So just what does the Republican Party stand for? Apparently men, sexual predators, are quite acceptable!
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Intangible wrote:Your post is a threat, nothing but abusive harassment. Stop making me or my posts topics in your threads and I will never post there. However you continually quote me or criticize me in your posts and then go bonkers all over my threads when I respond. Grow up, I do not discuss you or address you on any of my threads, if you do the same I will not post on yours... it is as simple as that, leave me alone and I will never post on any of your threadsTheCatsMeow wrote:DON'T POST ON MY THREADS UNLESS YOU WANT ME ALL OVER YOURS.!! A LAPSE IN MEMORY, I DELETED MY POSTS ON YOUR THREADS. I COULD CARE LESS IF YOU RESPOND TO MY POSTS JUST DO IT ON YOUR THREADS NOT MINE!! You are nasty and a bully and demeaning. The less I see of you the better. I follow Steve's threads and unfortunately run into yours otherwise It is never my intent to read your hate.
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Have you no honesty at all?
"Less than human"? That is just YOUR imagination. While we may never see eye to eye on this, I never implied that you or anyone else was "less than human". Ignorant, possibly. Blindly devoted, most definitely. Party politics over Christian values, absolutely! Intellectually dishonest, most of the time, particularly when it comes to politics..... but through it all still very human.  stevelundgren wrote:I exercised my rightful freedom in the political process of this great country.
And for that you consider me to be less than human?
The difference between patriotism and nationalism is that the patriot is proud of his country for what it does, and the nationalist is proud of his country no matter what it does; the first attitude creates a feeling of responsibility, but the second a feeling of blind arrogance that leads to war.
Sydney J. Harris
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That's your response to being caught lying and slandering?
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Have you no honesty at all?
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You criticize me for something Trump may have done years ago.
I criticize you for what you are doing right now.
stevelundgren wrote:
Note the disparity between the leftist's introductory summary statement
and what was actually quoted in the article. Who's being dishonest here?
The leftist: "Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore..."
Gov. Kay Ivey: "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them..."
There is a distinct difference between "believes" and "no reason to disbelieve".
The leftist: "Governor Kay Ivey states that...
having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens."
Gov. Kay Ivey: "There's never an excuse for or rationale for
sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."
Slanderous misquotes from a leftist with no moral compass.
Not even hiding the truth. He hopes that you only read his introductory
summary statement and not the quoted article.
Intangible wrote:Republicans again prove Christian values have no place in politics in this nation. Alabama Governor Kay Ivey states that she believes the women that have accused Roy Moore of sexual predation, but having a Republican Congress is more important to her than silly pedophiles attacking young teens.Governor Ivey Will Vote for MooreGov. Kay Ivey to vote for Roy Moore in U.S. Senate raceUpdated Nov 17, 4:16 PM; Posted Nov 17, 3:18 PMAlabama Gov. Kay Ivey said today she plans to vote for Roy Moore in the Dec. 12 election for the U.S. Senate despite allegations of Moore's sexual encounters with teenage girls about 40 years ago, which Moore has adamantly denied. Ivey said today she was bothered by the allegations against Moore, but had to weigh all the available information. She was asked if she believed Moore's accusers. "I certainly have no reason to disbelieve any of them," Ivey said. "The timing is a little curious. But at the same time, I have no reason to disbelieve them."
"There's never an excuse for or rationale for sexual misconduct or sexual abuse," Ivey said. "It bothers me."Ivey said that concern was a factor in her decision."Consider all the information that you have," Ivey said. "Certainly, it has an impact. But at the same time, the United States Senate needs to have in my opinion, a majority of Republican votes to carry the day and when they have to consider other major decisions. So that's a factor, as well." Ivey said. "I believe in the Republican Party, what we stand for, and most important, we need to have a Republican in the United States Senate"So just what does the Republican Party stand for? Apparently men, sexual predators, are quite acceptable!
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